Jop Tournament Qualifiers 4

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Another four showdowns, with Timberlake and his ex featuring prominently. In yesterday's second batch of polls, Madonna, Sister Sledge and Joy Division won convincingly, with Prince's "Kiss" sneaking up on Grandmaster Flash and R Kelly to take Group H by a single vote.


[Poll #912403]


Tomorrow - "Zigga-zig-ah!" "B-A-N-A-N-A-S!" "Woo-hoo!" and much more!

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Group names

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I can't edit the poll now, can I? Grrr.

Anyway, these are groups M, N, O, and P not K, L, M and N, not that it matters.

Ticksplanation

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

K; Not hard at all, against this field has to be Kate. The others are all OK, though I don't like "Like I Love You" much.

L: Hate "Intergalactic", the rest are decent, PE wins it just about, might switch votes.

M: "Bootylicious" is fantastic and a worthy likely winner but I LOVE "Regulate", one of my favourite tracks in any polls.

N: "Word Up" without a second of doubt - don't like any of the other three here much at all. The Cameo record ruthlessly exposes the relative timidity and coolness of the Britney one, which is still the second best in the group. DKs have better jokes than Underworld though.

Re: Ticksplanation

[byebyepride.livejournal.com]

MIND MELD!! My choices, and my logic behind them, pretty much.

Re: Ticksplanation

[mostlyconnect.livejournal.com]

I have never heard 'Word Up'! When is it from?

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Group "K": never do that to me again omg K8 v Madge aaargh (and I love the Eminem and Justin too!). Madge shades it because of more happy dancefloor memories, which is unfair to K8 but THERE YOU GO.

Group "L": pretty easy win for Justin, Annie doesn't engage the heart quite as much

Groups "M" and "N": 'Regulate' and 'Word Up' are very underrated generally but 'Bootylicious' and 'Slave' are monsters

Difficult!

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

- Kate no contest: she grabbed my ticks in the Now polls and will in this one as well
- Justin pips Chuck & co but only just
- Chaka is v close to my heart here so beats Regulate (my first ever parental advisory sticker purchase!)
- REALLY hard, botherd about Ded Kennedies but Cameo/Underworld/Britters all fab. Eventually went for slaaaaaaaaave.

[justfanoe.livejournal.com]

K: Deliberated between the first 3 for a while, almost went with "Stan", but gave Madonna my vote in the end.

L: Voted Annie. Perhaps contrary, but I don't really like any of these 4 songs THAT much. All are probably 8/10 or so.

M: Voted "Bootylicious" over "Regulate" by a nose. Didn't bother to consider the other 2.

N: "I'm A Slave 4U", easily. Not the best Dead Kennedies track.

[dzilinebisa.livejournal.com]

Making us chose between Bootylicious and Regulate is just NOT FAIR!!

Old school again

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

I should probably listen to Bootylicious again, but I have to say I downright hated it when it came out. Whereas Chaka is an old sentimental favorite for me.

Glad to see Kate on track to waltz through, although I shouldn't be surprised, should I?

Tell Me About This Kate Bush Woman

[koganbot]

Tell me about this Kate Bush woman, whom you all like so well.

Re: This Kate Bush Woman

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

Child prodigy, signed to EMI aged 15 months approx. Mentored by Pink Floyd, hit it big with very first Bronte-inspired single. Toured once in 1978, and has never played live since. A bona fide pop star in late 70s/early 80s. Now makes one album every 20 years - each one more idiosyncratic than the last - but is still nominated for Best Female at the Brits annually. National treasure.

Re: This Kate Bush Woman

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

Also, pal of Peter Gabriel.

Re: Tell Me About This Kate Bush Woman

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Classic English eccentric; has settled into what is apparently a life of blissful domesticity, going to the supermarket and taking her son to school; says "I'm normal and boring" in interviews but goes "A-HA-HA-HA-HA-HAAA" along with the birds in songs; adored by just about everyone including Tricky and Outkast; Tori Amos has been accused of being a K8 copyist (unjustly in my opinion, it is mostly due to a shared vocal range); has written songs about or based on Victorian novels, mad scientists, the plight of Australian aboriginals, witch trials, in-character meditations as a Vietnamese guerrilla fighter, incest, Elvis Presley and Joan of Arc, and got most of them in the top 20; national treasure.

Re: Tell Me About This Kate Bush Woman

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Her career is a series of dressing-up games, more successfully (IMO) than Bowie's cos she switches around between song to song more than album to album. Also cos Bowie's characters are all basically fucked-up aliens whereas Kate inhabits a whole series of skins (heroine of Wuthering Heights, mother of dead soldier, Molly Bloom, Australian bush ranger, mutant fetus, plus the less definable heroines of a hundred different other stories) and does so very well. But all the time you know it's Kate. So the aesthetic hook is her constructing these stories, and the emotional hook is often the joy of playing let's pretend and dress-up - and maybe the occasional fright as the dress-up reveals stuff you'd rather it wouldn't.

("Running Up That Hill" isn't like that particularly - it's good running music.)

Greatest Rock Moments In All Of Jop

[koganbot]

Two of the greatest rock moments in all of Jop are:

(1) the guitar part from "Edge Of Seventeen/Bootylicious" (is a Yardbirds-style rave-up, driving the rhythm, unrelenting knife thrusts).

(2) when Stan tells Slim "I hope your conscience eats at you and you can't breathe without me" (talk about knife thrusts, this is Dylan or Jagger '65, or Lou '67, savage evisceration, but precise).

Re: Greatest Rock Moments In All Of Jop

[justfanoe.livejournal.com]

Re: "Edge of Seventeen" sample in "Bootylicious". According to the "Billboard's Book of Number One Hits" or whatever by Fred Bronson, the producers really wanted "Eye of the Tiger" for that part but none of them had the record there. So they used "Edge of Seventeen" as a good enough temporary filler but ended up liking it enough that they left it in.

[martinskidmore.livejournal.com]

K: Relatively close between Kate and Marshall here, but I opted for Stan.

L: Very close - like them all, don't hugely love any of them. PE just about takes it.

M: Four fine records. A shame to not go for Destiny's Child, but I really love Regulate.

N: Four terrific tracks. I agonised longest over Cameo and Underworld, and went for the latter, but I hate shunning Word Up.