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I had an idea of doing a series of these? Let me know if it is unwelcome.

[Poll #907692]

(EDIT: I cannot edit the poll now but I meant the return train, w/ original boyfriend? Also plz to submit any other PRESSING POP QUESTIONS you can think of, LJ paid account has gone to my head)

Date: 2007-01-16 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcarratala.livejournal.com
I like the idea of the series, but I am dubious about this question. As far as I understand the song, she's in a long-distance relationship, fallen for another bloke, but her original boyfriend is arriving by train from KC because she hasn't had the bottle to tell him she's moved on. So why would she be getting on the train, either way?

Date: 2007-01-16 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
It's quite a good way of avoiding the boyfriend though! Last place he'd think to look.

Date: 2007-01-16 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
Meanwhile, how about Overload? Do the Sugababes get on the train, even they don't know its destination? OK, they know its metaphorical destination. Maybe the whole train is a metaphor! Maybe only Siobhan got on.

Maybe only Siobhan didn't.

Date: 2007-01-16 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
What I don't like about "Overload" (a minor quibble really) - the "tension is incredible" bit, which actually diffuses the tension. The tension in "Kansas City" (and most Shangri-Las songs) doesn't diffuse.

Date: 2007-01-16 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Here are the lyrics (per the Neko Case cover, but I assume she didn't change them):
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nekocase/trainfromkansascity.html

Date: 2007-01-16 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
i've only read the lyrics but surely the story is that she's living with her boyfriend, receives a letter from an ex-beau who’s moved away saying he’s visiting town (from Kansas City, presumably to return) – she doesn’t reply BUT she is going to meet him, ostensibly to show him her ring but it’s clear that she’s considering going off with him. So the options are: a) get on train to Kansas City and run away with ex-beau, b) be a Good Woman, meet him, show him the ring, maybe sob a bit, return home to fiance and always dream of what might have been. I wish she would do a) but I think in the context of the song she will do b) – but obv I cannot tick because I haven’t heard it sung! And that might make all the difference.

Date: 2007-01-16 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
The implication seems to be that he's not quite an ex, or at least that there's some reason he'd expect her not to have moved on.

Sung by the Shangri-La's the emphasis isn't really on either of the men she's choosing, it's about the existential horror of events catching up to you.

Date: 2007-01-16 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
It strikes me as being a kind of war widow type situation: she's assumed that for whatever reason (death?) that Beau 1 won't be coming back, that she is free to move on, and has done so, and that this letter from the past has come out of the blue.

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