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A qn for 2007 - what can mainstream emo and confessional teenpop learn from one another?

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I really hope NOTHING.

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They're so similar though! Teenpop is currently better at doing the things emo claims to be good at (directness, confusion) and it remembers to mix joy in with its pain - so that's what E could learn from T maybe. As for T, maybe E could teach it how to reconstitute itself as a subculture again, or something.

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Anyway I picked emo because I find it oddly fascinating. I liked R&B more in terms of listening, but R&B is always good, though this was a very good year as opposed to a pretty good one. (I liked teenpop more too, probably I'd have liked electro if I ever danced to it. Nu Rave I only put in to larff at it, only one person actually mentioned it.)

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but Emo + Joy = no longer Emo?

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I would use the word 'disgusting' in place of 'fascinating'.

I'm not sure I actually like the confessional side of teenpop very much - I mean obviously I love songs by Ashlee Simpson, Lindsay Lohan, Avril Lavigne etc, but a great deal of my enjoyment is through the prism of Ashlee/Lindsay's celebrity, and for the most part I think it's merely very good pop rather than great pop, and I definitely don't love it as a genre: too guitary! I would like dancepop back please.

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Well yeah except there's a potential terror and unease in joy, just as there's a comfort in gloom (this latter emo is fine with, obv.)

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blue-russian.livejournal.com

I think it has to be emo.

Although HSM was certainly a sensation, I personally had very little sense of this being an unusually big year in teen pop. The same goes for R&B, although I have to admit that I generally don't listen to R&B BECAUSE IT SAYS NOTHING TO ME ABOUT MY LIFE (although our of a sense of obligation I try to check out whatever Lex says I should).

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was it really that good a year for R&B? as opposed to 'business as usual' or even another year in which nothing changed, nothing really knocked THAT many people's socks off and things just got that little bit staler (i kind of agree with marcello about this)? i was bored of most things tho really.

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I would also like dancepop back but I think the two could co-exist. In fact, more confessional dancepop would be an awesome next step, as the "big shouty guitar chorus" is kind of a blunt instrument.

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even a bad year for r&b >>>>>>>>>> a good year for anything else

in terms of what actual genre ruled the year, the answer is MINIMAL HOUSE obv.

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and emo does?!

if emo ever spoke to me about my life I would have to take immediate steps to CHANGE MY LIFE.

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Nobody nominated Minimal House, I assume because it's a bit boring and only house spods on ILX really care about it. :)

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If I was nominating on this criteria I would be picking lullabies!

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My apologies for this crude and uncharacteristic baiting. I have every respect for minimal house. I don't know what came over me.

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'even a bad year for r&b >>>>>>>>>> a good year for anything else'

i thought you would say this. does it mean you agree it's been a relatively poor period for it? or if not do you think it will ever go through some period of stagnation eventually?

i think we over-empthasise the imortance of such things (there will always be one or two good tracks around in popular genres) tho.

i didn't like much of the minimal house i heard this year either alas. but an '06 min-house primer CD tracklist would be handy just to remind me what i'm missing once again hint hint

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vive el presidente!

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No one knows what to call it! I don't think anyone actually knows the difference between techno/electro/minimal any more.

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jeff-worrell.livejournal.com

Yeah, I assume people nominating "electro" were also including stuff like Lindstrom.

Down with cliquey microgenres!

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i don't think it's been a poor perios for r&b, and i don't think it will stagnate either - as far as i'm concerned every year is a great year for r&b! it's possibly more fractured than it was during the turn-of-century Golden Age, when everyone seemed to be working towards a commonly defined Timbaland/Neptunes-influenced futuristic aesthetic, which means that it has less of a hold as a genre over pop, because it's casting around in various directions at the same time: the artists Tom's mentioned are all doing wildly different things, and then you've got Amerie sampling Tom Zé, Pussycat Dolls taking it to the lowest common denominator generic level, LeToya hinting towards dirty south r&b, Yummy Bingham and her swing leanings, Brooke Valentine camping it up...

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I only voted for electro under duress because I've listened to and enjoyed more of it in 2006 than any of the other genres but its not as prevalent as every other year since 2002.

RnB - as usual, liked a few tracks, liked the Big Tunes less than Big Tunes from other year, still can't see myself progressing beyond the dilettante stage sometime soon

Teenpop - there's not been enough of the good stuff in the UK charts for me to pay attention

Emo - Rubbish

Nu-Rave - Doesn't exist

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jauntyalan.livejournal.com

how come we're not discussing the death of rap?

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jauntyalan.livejournal.com

have i been away and missed ANY impact that HSM has had in the UK. it's massive in the US – or so i gather from Popstar! magazine

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