Rocktimism (Again)

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

No P&J poll today because I am too busy. BUT a reminder that it's POPTIMISM tomorrow!

Meanwhile you can talk about the strange and fearsome world of Pazz And Jop Album Winners if you like.


1971 - The Who - Who's Next
1974 - Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark
1975 - Bob Dylan & The Band - The Basement Tapes
1976 - Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
1977 - Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
1978 - Elvis Costello - This Year's Model
1979 - Graham Parker - Squeezing Out Sparks
1980 - The Clash - London Calling
1981 - The Clash - Sandinista!
1982 - Elvis Costello - Imperial Bedroom
1983 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
1984 - Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.
1985 - Talking Heads - Little Creatures
1986 - Paul Simon - Graceland
1987 - Prince - Sign 'O' the Times
1988 - Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
1989 - De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
1990 - Neil Young - Ragged Glory
1991 - Nirvana - Nevermind
1992 - Arrested Development - 3 Years, 5 Months & 2 Days in the Life Of...
1993 - Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville
1994 - Hole - Live Through This
1995 - PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love
1996 - Beck - Odelay
1997 - Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind
1998 - Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
1999 - Moby - Play
2000 - OutKast - Stankonia
2001 - Bob Dylan - Love and Theft
2002 - Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
2003 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
2004 - Kanye West - The College Dropout
2005 - Kanye West - Late Registration


How many of them have you owned? (My answer: unlucky 13)

Comments

[koganbot]

14

[martinskidmore.livejournal.com]

I believe I have 18 of them, including a run of 8 in a row (85-92), then none of the next seven.

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

own
1989 - De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
2003 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below

downloaded/copied
1981 - The Clash - Sandinista!
1987 - Prince - Sign 'O' the Times
1988 - Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
1991 - Nirvana - Nevermind
1999 - Moby - Play
2000 - OutKast - Stankonia


blimey i really do hate music albums

"have you owned" vs "do you own" TRAP

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

1974 - Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark (I have lost this! I would like it back!)
1977 - Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols (owned for TWO DAYS before I took the HORRID NOISE back to the shop)
1980 - The Clash - London Calling
1987 - Prince - Sign 'O' the Times
1988 - Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
1993 - Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville
1994 - (I have never owned Live Through This, shurely shome mishtake, I need to rectify this)
1995 - PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love (this is the BEST EVAH p&j album winner)
1998 - Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road (ooh this reminds me I must dig this out at some point soon, haven't heard it in an AGE)
2000 - OutKast - Stankonia
2003 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (good but GO AWAY ALREADY))
2004 - Kanye West - The College Dropout (this is the SECOND BEST EVAH p&j album winner)
2005 - Kanye West - Late Registration

14! the one i owned but hated is balanced out by the one i never owned but love.

Re: "have you owned" vs "do you own" TRAP

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

PJ also the only time my OWN album-of-year coincided with p&j winner. for reference:

1994 - Portishead - Dummy
1995 - PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love
1996 - Tori Amos - Boys For Pele
1997 - Björk - Homogenic
1998 - Tori Amos - From The Choirgirl Hotel
1999 - Missy Elliott - Da Real World
2000 - Kelis - Kaleidoscope
2001 - Aaliyah - Aaliyah
2002 - Trina - Diamond Princess
2003 - Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner
2004 - Girls Aloud - What Will The Neighbours Say?
2005 - Vitalic - OK Cowboy
2006 - Ellen Allien & Apparat - Orchestra Of Bubbles (pending, Paris Hilton and The Knife are very close to it)

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

22

= unbroken run through to PHAIR (first i don't have)

then HOLE

then STANKONIA

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

blimey who will beat me in the ACTUAL REAL ROCKIST ROCK CRITIC competition!

I OWN OR HAVE OWNED

[catsgomiaow.livejournal.com]

1985 - Talking Heads - Little Creatures
1988 - Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
1989 - De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
1991 - Nirvana - Nevermind
1995 - PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love
1996 - Beck - Odelay
1999 - Moby - Play
2000 - OutKast - Stankonia

Eight!

[juror8.livejournal.com]

1976 - Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
1977 - Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
1983 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
1984 - Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.
1985 - Talking Heads - Little Creatures
1986 - Paul Simon - Graceland
1987 - Prince - Sign 'O' the Times
1988 - Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
1989 - De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
1994 - Hole - Live Through This
2003 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below


"Three Feet High and Rising" is kinda so far above every other album on this list its embarassing.

[http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/]

Heard five - currently own one.

Beat that.

Nine (+6)

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

Own: 74, 77, 86, 89, 93, 96, 03, 04, 05

Pooh Sticks (= "I've got it on tape"): 76, 78, 81, 82, 87, 88

I've also heard Thriller but none of the others. I tend to avoid canonical alBUMs on the whole.

Hmm, should I list my own fave LPs for these years? Perhaps not.

Re: Nine (+6)

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

'Hmm, should I list my own fave LPs for these years? Perhaps not.'

yes let's!

i can't go before '89 tho:

89 De La Soul - Three Feet High & Rising
90 Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet
91 808 State - Ex:El
92 Altern 8 - Full On...Mask Hysteria
93 Pearl Jam - Vs (AIEEEEEEEEE)
94 Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation
95 Goldie - Timeless
96 Faithless - Reverence
97 Daft Punk - Homework
98 Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty
99 Basement Jaxx - Remedy
00 Laurent Garnier - Unreasonable Behaviour
01 The Avalanches - Since I Left You
02 The Streets - Original Pirate Material
03 Outkast - Speakerboxx/The Love Below
04 Annie - Anniemal
05 Broadcast - Tender Buttons
06 The Knife - Silent Shout

those were what i picked at the time (De La was the first and only album i bought in '89 - never got round to buying Inner City's or Soul II Soul's like i meant to - so that's by default)

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

6 - and i'm not being any more specific

[catsgomiaow.livejournal.com]

OH GO ON!

4. Beat that.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

1980 - The Clash - London Calling
1988 - Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back (copied)
1991 - Nirvana - Nevermind
2003 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below

Re: 4. Beat that.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Ah. I see xyzzzz__ already has!

[byebyepride.livejournal.com]

7, if Little Creatures is the one I think it is.

This is why I am not a rock critic.

OK, not the only reason.

Own or have owned

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

18. Including one that is so embarassing that I was forced to delete my entire list to prevent you finding out.

Re: Own or have owned

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

HI DERE WILCO LOVER

Oh, alright

[koganbot]

1971 - The Who - Who's Next
1977 - Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
1979 - Graham Parker - Squeezing Out Sparks
1980 - The Clash - London Calling
1983 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
1987 - Prince - Sign 'O' the Times
1988 - Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
1989 - De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
1991 - Nirvana - Nevermind
1993 - Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville
1994 - Hole - Live Through This
1999 - Moby - Play
2000 - OutKast - Stankonia
2001 - Bob Dylan - Love and Theft

(Sold '79* and '89 [I think; can't find it, anyway], had '91 stolen, got '99, '00, '01 as promos courtesy of Xhuxk.)

(*Taped "Discovering Japan" before selling.)

I'm a bit rubbish really

[fathands.livejournal.com]

Own
1994 - Hole - Live Through This (Lex, if you want this you can have it)
2000 - OutKast – Stankonia
2003 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below

Have owned
1977 - Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
1980 - The Clash - London Calling
1991 - Nirvana – Nevermind

Should own
1995 - PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love

Re: I'm a bit rubbish really

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Really? Go on then!

[dickmalone.livejournal.com]

9, unless you count burns and joint ownerships, in which case 15.

[dickmalone.livejournal.com]

OWN:
1977 - Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols (vinyl and CD)
1978 - Elvis Costello - This Year's Model
1987 - Prince - Sign 'O' the Times
1991 - Nirvana - Nevermind (tape, burned CD)
1992 - Arrested Development - 3 Years, 5 Months & 2 Days in the Life Of... (tape only)
1995 - PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love (tape & CD)
1996 - Beck - Odelay
2003 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
2004 - Kanye West - The College Dropout

BURNS:
1983 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
1984 - Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.
1993 - Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville
2005 - Kanye West - Late Registration
(oddly enough all but the Kanye are actual burns, not downloads--got 'em from relatives)

JOINTLY OWNED:
1989 - De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
1994 - Hole - Live Through This

Kanye

[dickmalone.livejournal.com]

Did anyone else wince a little actually seeing those two Kanye albums back-to-back? I like him and all, and better him than Lucinda Williams I guess, but jeez...

Re: Kanye

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

They're not my personal favourites of either year but they are both incredible albums - both were top 5 easily for me! They're probably the least wincey bit of the list.

OK my actual list

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

1975 - Bob Dylan & The Band - The Basement Tapes (never really got into)
1977 - Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols (OK)
1978 - Elvis Costello - This Year's Model (listen to occasionally)
1982 - Elvis Costello - Imperial Bedroom (rubbish)
1983 - Michael Jackson - Thriller (71% good)
1985 - Talking Heads - Little Creatures (lost tape of, not v good)
1987 - Prince - Sign 'O' the Times (rarely play)
1988 - Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back (grebt)
1989 - De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising (also grebt but I play it less)
HUGE GAP AS 90S PASS ME BY!
1999 - Moby - Play (sorry Alan it's woeful except "Run On")
2000 - OutKast - Stankonia (never play)
2001 - Bob Dylan - Love and Theft (much better than the 1997 pick)
2003 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (give over)

Re: OK my actual list

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

imperial bedroom has good songs on it -- but can't tell you which since phonograph meltdown last week

my list of one

[http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/]

The one I have an actual proper copy of is Prince - Sign 'O' the Times - good, but I only felt the need to play it once.

Heard:

Hole, Nirvana (all excellent) and Beck (pretty good - 'Mutations' ws the last thing I bothered to hear and I'd say it's much better) were the others I got to hear by borrowing off rec library. Thought I'd heard the Stevie Wonder but I ws thinking of 'Talking Book', which is absolutely amazing - need more of those from the 70s.

The lesson here: I really should be selling a lot of my records, PT 1.

[epicharmus.livejournal.com]

1971 - The Who - Who's Next

Own it, CD. One of my very first CDs. Haven't listened to it in years. I'm sure it's still OK but only the first and last songs really interest me.

1974 - Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark

Own it, LP. Loved it as a kid -- I may have heard "Help Me" on the radio when it was a hit, back when I was 3.5 y.o. -- but now my favorite Joni is less-heralded *For the Roses* Her compositional frippery and loathing for the world fascinates me here, it's completely unstustainable.

1975 - Bob Dylan & The Band - The Basement Tapes

Own it, LP. Great album to get drunk to.

1976 - Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life

Own it, CD. Again, one of my very first CDs. Liked it a lot the last time I listened to it.

1977 - Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols

Own it, LP. During my orgy of canonical-classic buying, I resisted buying this because it seemed fearsome. I never really listen to it. Only a couple songs mean much to me.

1978 - Elvis Costello - This Year's Model

Own it, CD. One of the first albums (LP) I bought due to the aura of critical consensus behind it. It confused me at first, but grew to like it somewhat. Bought it on CD because I felt I needed to.

1979 - Graham Parker - Squeezing Out Sparks

Own it, LP. Parker basically means nothing to me, but this is he most punkish (and thereby least annoying) thing I've heard of his.

1980 - The Clash - London Calling

Own it, LP. This is probably very good but I find the Clash totally resistable.

1981 - The Clash - Sandinista!

Don't own it. I'd probably find it very interesting due to its supposed mammoth self-indulgence.

1982 - Elvis Costello - Imperial Bedroom

Own it, CD. It is a big meaningless wedding cake of an album, and in that, it's not charmless. The singles off this are unbeatable.

1983 - Michael Jackson - Thriller

Own it, LP. My very first LP, bought the very same day his hair caught on fire while filming the Pepsi commercial. A recent listen-through reveals it to be pretty darned even beyond "Billie Jean" and "Beat It"; only "The Lady in My Life" is a bummer.

1984 - Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.

Own it, CD. This is probably very good but I get Springsteenitis sometimes.

1985 - Talking Heads - Little Creatures

Own it, LP. Found this to be a bore beyond "Road to Nowhere" and "And She Was."

1986 - Paul Simon - Graceland

Own it, CD. It's good. Heard "Boy in the Bubble" recently and was put off by the way Simon tries too hard to capture "the way we live now" lots of provocative phrases which sound real important and are meant to sound zeitgeisty 'n' shit ("lasers in the jungle," etc.) but only show off his ignorance (his boy-in-the-bubbleness) (For example: I think he means "star" when he says "constellation.") But still: "don't cry baby, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry."

1987 - Prince - Sign 'O' the Times

Own it, CD. Even bought it when it first came out on vinyl, when it was mysteriously priced something like $18! I haven't heard this in ages, my general impression is that he's completely showing off here, he's showing the audience WHO'S BOSS (in a good way).

1988 - Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

Own it, CD. You know something? As a complete statement, it's kinda boring. But the singles are still steak and sizzle. Haven't heard the whole thing in ages, etc.

1989 - De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising

Own it, CD. Haven't heard the whole thing in ages, etc. but I'm reasonably sure I'd still like.

Re: The lesson here: I really should be selling a lot of my records, PT 2.

[epicharmus.livejournal.com]

1990 - Neil Young - Ragged Glory

Don't own it. Loved Neil as a kid but the idea of '90's comeback rock-n-rolla Neil never had appeal to me.

1991 - Nirvana - Nevermind

Own it, CD. *In Utero* means much more to me.

1992 - Arrested Development - 3 Years, 5 Months & 2 Days in the Life Of...

Don't own it.

1993 - Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville

Own it, CS -- which is probably why I haven't heard it in over a decade. It's good from what I remember.

1994 - Hole - Live Through This

Don't own it.

1995 - PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love

Own it, CD. BORING.

1996 - Beck - Odelay

Own it, CD. I don't think I've listened to this all the way through once.

1997 - Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind

Own it, CD. I don't think I've listened to this all the way through once, but I liked *Modern Times* quite a bit so I should give another try.

1998 - Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road

Don't own it.

1999 - Moby - Play

Don't own it.

2000 - OutKast - Stankonia

Own it, CD. Kinda bored by it beyond "B.O.B."

2001 - Bob Dylan - Love and Theft

Own it, CD. My boss gave me a copy for Christmas, I believe. I don't think I've listened to this all the way through once.

2002 - Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

Don't own it.

2003 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below

Don't own it. I like the singles, though!

2004 - Kanye West - The College Dropout

Own it, CD. Excellent.

2005 - Kanye West - Late Registration

Own it, CD. My God, right now this might be the one album here I get the most pleasure out of.

[epicharmus.livejournal.com]

Oh God, that's 25 in total!!!!

[raw-patrick.livejournal.com]

Eleven, and not currently the eleven I would like to own out of them.

[jel-bugle.livejournal.com]

Yankee Foxtrot Hotel is one of the most boring albums ever.

Have I really written for rock magazines for fifteen years?

[mcarratala.livejournal.com]

Five actual albums, three copies, and I had a review copy of Nevermind for a while and gave it away. (I really like a few of the ones I don't have).

17, at one time or another

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

But the only ones I've listened to in recent memory are
-Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
-Graceland
-Who's Next
-London Calling
-Sandinista
-Imperial Bedroom