The History Of Jop Part 17 aka I'm the kind of G the little homies wanna be like

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The amazing history of JOP reels round to 1995 - NINE ticks from 25 singles!


[Poll #856398]


1994 - Joptimism Unplugged

1. Girls And Boys (39 votes)
2. Sabotage (38 votes)
3=. Regulate (35)
3=. Here Come The Hotstepper (35)
5. Loser (34)
6. Gin And Juice (31)
7. Cut Your Hair (30)
8. Whatta Man (25)
9. Doll Parts (23)
10. Miss World (22)

Comments

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Hurrah! Exactly 9 songs I like!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Who was voting for Joan Osborne?

This poll has a strong "must vote for alt.rock regardless of quality" streak to it, for me - Wasis, Foo Fighters twice(!), Smashing Ps, and then that weird sort of power-pop revival thing that was going on (I had completely forgotten about Matthew Sweet even existing!). It's kind of a bad list, but then I was pretty detached even from UK 'alt' by this point - I nearly put "A Girl Like You" as worst!

tuff poll!

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i only ticked 6 -- and wonderwall wd have been my 7th! bcz i dislike it less than everything else i didn't tick

(except for a couple of unknowns i am no doubt sliming)

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

I was strangled by medically needing to tick both Elasticas and both TLCs. It's probably my favourite Shaggy song up there though, amazing stuff.

This year the combined forces of Elastica, Portishead & Massive Attack turned me off the glorious chart dance I had loved so much in the previous 3 years and sent me down the path of guitar-playing gothery.

[nicolars.livejournal.com]

It's just wrong!

[miss-newham.livejournal.com]

I like everything on this list! (apart from the ones I haven't heard) I feel slightly ashamed.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Almost the same here except sans Elastica; and P'head and M Attack are TECHNICALLY DANCE (ie found in the dance section of HMV) and have no guitars so my get-out clause is PRESERVED!

God those TLC songs are masterworks.

[martinskidmore.livejournal.com]

I could only stand to tick seven, some of which I totally love. Yeah, far too much terrible alt-rock.

[koganbot]

Oh, yes, it's a terrible list (coming right after 1994's quite packed one), but Joan Osborne at least had a melody, would have ticked it if you'd forced us to pick another four. The Dionne Farris song is terrible way beyond the terribleness of the rest of the stuff on here, since being actively catchy and irritating is far better than being NOTHING.

My Year

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I left University. I got a job in a comic shop. I went to Finland to see the Moomins. I got the TLC album as a Christmas present. I posted to USENET for the first time. I had a mostly good year.

Wonderwall not that bad really honest

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

Would have been my tenth tick. Lots of decent cover versions around, which suggests to me it's good songwriting. There was a good Pinefox thread about the song on ILM once.

Morning Glory period Wasis = only Wasis I will defend. I don't own it but I have all the CD singles from it I think.

Re: tuff poll!

[koganbot]

I doubt that you are sliming any unknowns. (Which are unknowns?) But you are one COWARD for not ticking "Wonderwall." I am left all alone with my brave trickery.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Yeah, my Joan Osborne qn was more bafflement that critics had picked something which seems really obviously likely to trigger sneering reflexes rather than that they'd picked a dreadful song (though it isn't a good song).

Re: My Year

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

Was this the year you got in Mojo mag?

Re: My Year

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I don't THINK so, cos I don't think I started reading Mojo until I'd been working at the bookshop for a while and had run out of comics to read in lunch breaks.

'You Oughta Know' has really good lyrics

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Really good use of verse-chorus-verse pop song structure to tell you everything you need to know about the situation in three minutes, straight up, no messing, angry but funny enough to be more than just angry.

Every other lyric Alanis wrote wasn't just not-good, it was actively awful hippy-drippy shite, and by her next album she was laughing-stock bad.

Garbage's decline was also rather rapid too. Difficult to believe they were once decent!

Re: tuff poll!

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

well i don't really LIKE it! so it seemed a bit odd to tick it JUST to be fair to it -- yes it is by no means as bad as a lot of the other songs, but also oasis had better songs -- my sister bought this (a VERY rare occurrence) and i asked why and she sed "IT'S GREBT", so i played it a few times to see what i thought and was a bit nonplussed at her regard for it (i had nothing invested pro or con oasis at that stage -- of course the sheer scarring ugly media omnipresence of oasis uk-side hasn't helped)

by unknowns i meant "unknowns to me" -- luniz, filter, joan osbourne, matthew sweet i remember nothing of

("forgottens by me" is possibly closer but i really really was OFF ALL MUSIC in 95-96)

[koganbot]

I would say "One Of Us" has an actively good melody and has a singer with an actively good voice that somehow weighs the song down (not just the terrible lyrics, but the way she layers on her good voice) so as not to be as good as it should be. But I remember being happy to hear the song's bright cheery chords the first six or so times it came on MTV. Though usually I was happy to hear the song end, as well. The lyrics are no worse than some of Nelly Furtado's imbecilities, and Nelly gets (deserved) respect these days.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Bright Eyes got in last year!

'One Of Us' teeters on the tightrope between good and bad for the most part and ultimately veers into CRASHINGLY AWFUL thanks to some choice lyrics about eg the Pope in Rome.

With 19 votes in...

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Portishead in the lead, but zero "Best Song" votes. Discuss.

Re: 'You Oughta Know' has really good lyrics

[koganbot]

Also amazing chords when she goes "I am here to remind you." Of course I can understand the people who find her voice a torment. I generally like it, since the voice is at odds with her basic tunefulness. Also, not only does she pave the way for Avril, but for Shakira and Ashlee as well. And I like what she's trying to say in "You Learn" (Ashlee's favorite song at age 10), though she ends up tripping over her own obviousness.

[boyofbadgers.livejournal.com]

Both Massive Attack and esp P'head have TONNES of guitar.

Re: 'You Oughta Know' has really good lyrics

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

By 1996 I was so confident of knowing ALL THE WORDS to EVERY SONG on the Alanis album that when I taped it for my chum K I gave her the cassette inlay sleeve as well...

By the time her next album came out I couldn't bloody stand her.

Re: 'You Oughta Know' has really good lyrics

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

(Alanis that is, not K)

Re: With 19 votes in...

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

ppl are kinda pro portishead but cannot actually remember this song (this is the entire "justification" for my vote!) (it was my sixth = i guess it's ok)

not sure what my elastica allergy is -- possibly residual punk snobbery