The History Of Jop Part 14 aka Let me understand your plan

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

After the blockbuster commentsfest of 1991, the Poptimists pollmasters bring you.....1992, obviously. Will punk keep breaking? Are we all ternative? Whose trousers were on back to front? ect ect.

"How I Could Just Kill A Man" has been left off this list because it was on the last one, thus leaving you NINE ticks to make.


[Poll #848522]


1991: Other People's Poptimism

1. Smells Like Teen Spirit (36 votes)
2. Losing My Religion (28)
3. I Touch Myself (27)
4=. Enter Sandman (25)
4=. Unbelievable (25)
4=. Mama Said Knock You Out (25)
7. Gett Off (23)
8=. Set Adrift On Memory Bliss (22)
8=. My Definition of a Boombastic Jazz Style (22)
10. Bring Tha Noise (20)

Comments

[cis.livejournal.com]

the worst important! this is a v important cultural concept, i must think more on it. XD

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Strangely appropriate for this year.

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

A great list for me. Love much of the stuff here (even L7, a bit). Thought Arrested Development were irritating tho did like 'Tennessee'.

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

very unexciting mix this. i enthusiastically ticked 4, and then padded it out with "they were nice toos"

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

this was also the year that i found i was getting into music made be people who were YOUNGER than myself, viz Ride and PJHarvey

Madonna goes from S to E (minus the X and C?)

[koganbot]

I ticked it (just barely) but "Erotica" was when Madonna went from sexy to erotic, and got way more boring. The track's good, but what it portended wasn't. Dance tracks as art moods, or something.

Re: Madonna goes from S to E (minus the X and C?)

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

could you not say the same about 'Justify My Love' or did that stay sexy enough (despite background Kravitz)?

Re: Madonna goes from S to E (minus the X and C?)

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

no way! Erotica is totally my favourite madge album - it and Bedtime Stories are so underrated. I love its coldness, its art-ambition, its moodiness. It's definitely the queerest of her albums, and it's got the most mystique about it.

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

The Prodigy actually toured the USA in '92 which I always found bizarre. Did they register at all among critics there tho as 'acceptable face of rave' or whatever? Interesting that Utah Saints did so well considering how critics seemed indifferent to K Bush there.

THOROUGHLY AWESOME YEAR

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

How can anyone be disappointed by this year?

With most great years it seems as if all the greatness is in a definite vein - banging Eurotechno or old-skool hip-hop or whatever. But in 1992 it's on all fronts! The bosh is well represented; the r&b and hip-hop is brilliant; even the alt stuff (eg KD Lang, and that REM song isn't bad even though I dodn't tick it) (let us IGNORE the crappy peppers) is on top form. It's all good!

Small point of order: where is Tori Amos? This was the year she emerged! I didn't get into her until '94 though.

Re: THOROUGHLY AWESOME YEAR

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Like the Lex I have never really stopped listening to stuff from 1992! Even during my lengthy indie phase I still preferred early Prodge to Fat of the Land etc and boshed it up to the Tlimited at student discos innit.

This is the year I would most like to relive, musically.

Re: THOROUGHLY AWESOME YEAR

[lockedintheatti.livejournal.com]

This was the year my love affair with R&B began and my musical tastes really started to broaden outside pop & rave music. En Vogue & TLC are still my two favourite girl bands of all time - and both of their singles here are brilliant.

It was the year I started clubbing too and had a bit more money so I could buy more - so I have very fond memories of 1992.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

important note: i wz overworked editor at the wire at this point hence ALL THE MUSIC I PLAYED = urgent escape from wire-type music!

i also listened to; LUSH, NEIL YOUNG (esp.arc-weld), MBV, cocteaus

there is someone w.a name LIKE utah saints who i always mix em up with -- not very good corporate rock probably on A&M (NOT texas) (even tho that description kinda fits)

I'll fvck you til the daylight comes

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Let's talk about how much we love 'Damn I Wish I Was Your Lover'!

(She actually sings "I'll rock you..." but I have always assumed there was a proper sweary version somewhere even though I have no evidence of this.)

I love the lush synth action on it.

Re: I'll fvck you til the daylight comes

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

i had big crush on SBH first time i saw her on TOTP but soon realised this may have been misplaced.

incrdibly dull fact: this song was used as incidental music in an episode of Baywatch - possibly the first 'proper' song to feature in the show.

Come on, come on, c'mon c'mon

[juror8.livejournal.com]

Can we reclaim "Pretend We're Dead" as a Poptimists anthem here please?

Re: Come on, come on, c'mon c'mon

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

i don't think so (and i ticked it!)

Jump Around With A Butcher Knife

[koganbot]

Kris has one s, though his friend Kross has two. (I made the same mistake in my book, but caught it during the editing.)

Jesus Built My Hotrod With A Butcher Knife
Constant Carving With A Butcher Knife (Dyslexic Mix)*
My Lovin' You're Never Gonna Get It With A Butcher Knife
Pretend We're Dead With A Butcher Knife
Ain't 2 Proud 2 Beg With A Butcher Knife
They Reminisce Over You With A Butcher Knife
Something Good With A Butcher Knife

(Xhuxk was the first to improve this title in this fashion.)

Re: Jump Around With A Butcher Knife

[koganbot]

(Xhuxk improved Constant Craving, that is.)

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

My ticks this year are hugely coloured by going to university - "Jesus Built My Hotrod" got a tick cos it was played at clubs so much, for instance. My musical identity took a real battering at University - I felt quite insecure about it, despite being one of the people in my social circle most obviously "into music". So I fell back on a lot of indie as a comfort move, at least at the end of 1992 (my first term) - because it gave me something to talk to people about, rather than trying to push the more (relatively) obscure old stuff I liked.

For about two weeks after it was released I would loudly proclaim REM's Automatic For The People as my favourite ever record. By the end of the year I pretty much hated it. (Except for "Drive", which I ticked here). These two weeks unfortunately coincided with me meeting a lot of my future friends.

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

what's with the 'Drive' love? i did actually like it (and the album) at the time but i think it's the dullest song on this list (that i know) by some way.

Battle me? That's a sin.

[juror8.livejournal.com]

Percentage of people graduating from three year university courses in the past ten years who can't recite the lyrics of "Jump Around" word for word: 2.1%

Trying to play me up like as if my name was Sega

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Indeed.

My 1992 Pazz & Jop ballot

[koganbot]

1. Kris Kross "Jump" (Ruffhouse/Columbia)
2. Midi, Maxi & Efti "Bad Bad Boys" (Columbia)
3. Laissez Faire "In Paradise" (Metropolitan)
4. Bonnie Raitt "I Can't Make You Love Me" (Capitol)
5. Mariah Carey "Make It Happen"
6. Magneto "Vuela Vuela" (Sony)
7. Mariah Carey "Can't Let Go" (Columbia)
8. Margie Martinée "Distant Emotions" (Metropolitan)
9. Cypress Hill "Hand on the Pump" (Ruffhouse)
10. La Sonora Dinamita "Vuela Vuela" (Sonotone)

You've all heard an earlier version of "Vuela Vuela," though it was called something else, but these versions, especially Magneto's, are cheesier, and maybe better.

Re: My 1992 Pazz & Jop ballot

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

2. Midi, Maxi & Efti "Bad Bad Boys" (Columbia)

man alive is this really from '92? i feel shame

Meanwhile In the UK

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Crossovers in bold:

The drowners - Suede
Sheela na gig - P.J. Harvey
Motorcycle emptiness - Manic street preachers
Creep - Radiohead
Drive - REM
Jump around - House of pain
Television - the drug of the nation - Disposable heroes of hiphoprisy
My loving - En vogue
Pretend we're dead - L7
Metal Mickey - Suede
Babes - Pulp
Straight to you - Nick Cave
Avenue - St Etienne
Changes - Sugar
Armchair anarchist - Kingmaker
Connected - Stereo MC's
Free range - The fall
Little baby nothing - Manic street preachers
Didgeridoo - The alphex twins
Old red eyes is back - The beautiful south
Revenge - Jesus and Mary chain
Deeply dippy - Right said Fred
Would I lie to you - Charles & Eddie
Goin' out west - Tom Waits
It's a shame about ray - The lemonheads
It's not what you know - New FADs
King of gasoline - The joyriders
Second-hand clothes - Moonshake
Steamroller - The family cat
Brenda's got a baby - 2-pac
Dixie-Narco EP - Primal Scream
Middle of the road - Denim
Remedy - The Black Crowes
Geek love - Bang bang machine
I’m on my way - Betty Boo
Rich and strange - Cud
Hold it down - Senseless things
People everyday - Arrested Development
Mid-life crisis - Faith no more
Little bird - Moose
The impossible dream - Carter
Summer babe - Pavement
Theme from mash - Manic street preachers
Medication - Spiritulized
Join our club - St Etienne
Gradually Learning - The Rockingbirds
Everybody loves me but you - Juliana Hatfield
This is not a song - The Frank and Walters
Slow dog - Belly
I love your smile - Shanice

I'm going to post the MM poll too, cos I remember it well:

The drowners - Suede
Sheela na gig - P.J. Harvey
Taillight fade - Buffalo Tom
Metal Mickey - Suede
Fast piss blues - Come
Trigger cut - Pavement
Scum - Bark psychosis
My world is empty without you - Afghan whigs
Weekender - Flowered up
Car - Come
Avenue - St Etienne
Drive - REM
Papua new guinea - Future sound of London
Pretend we're dead - L7
Dusted - Belly
leave them all behind - Ride
The blue room - The Orb
Gravity grave - Verve
Connected - Stereo MC's
Rubbing the impossible to burst - Huggy bear

& in fact v.tempted to put the SELECT list on too. But I will refrain.

Re: Meanwhile In the UK

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

HAHAHAHAH at Flowered Up.

Blue Room = my fave Orb track by a country mile. The 7" mix, anyway.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Incidentally I have a great longing to hear the En Vogue again, just saying.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Alas I don't have my cd wallet with me otherwise I'd attempt a YSI type thing.

Billboard 1992

[koganbot]

Billboard Top 28 1992

1. End Of The Road - Boyz II Men
2. Baby Got Back - Sir Mix A-lot
3. Jump - Kris Kross
4. Save The Best For Last - Vanessa Williams
5. Baby-Baby-Baby - TLC
6. Tears In Heaven - Eric Clapton
7. My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It) - En Vogue
8. Under The Bridge - Red Hot Chili Peppers
9. All 4 Love - Color Me Badd
10. Just Another Day - Jon Secada
11. I Love Your Smile - Shanice
12. To Be With You - Mr. Big
13. I'm Too Sexy - Right Said Fred
14. Black Or White - Michael Jackson
15. Achy Breaky Heart - Billy Ray Cyrus
16. I'll Be There - Mariah Carey
17. November Rain - Guns N' Roses
18. Life Is A Highway - Tom Cochrane
19. Remember The Time - Michael Jackson
20. Finally - CeCe Peniston
21. This Used To Be My Playground - Madonna
22. Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough - Patty Smyth
23. Can't Let Go - Mariah Carey
24. Jump Around - House Of Pain
25. Diamonds And Pearls - Prince & The N.P.G.
26. Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me - George Michael & Elton John
27. Masterpiece - Atlantic Starr
28. If You Asked Me To - Celine Dion

Re: Billboard 1992

[epicharmus.livejournal.com]

Mmmm...some non-PJ good'uns here: Vanessa Williams, Color Me Badd, CeCe, TLC, Tom Cochrane, maybe Shanice, and definitely "End of the Road," which struck me as unutterly ordinary the first hundred times I heard it -- and then I heard it the night I handed in my shitty-ass senior essay and I could finally feel the agon in it.

REM - Drive

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I have been trying to work out why I (still) like it - it is very difficult (though there was never any chance of me not ticking it).

I think it's a bit like why I like Matthews Southern Comfort doing "Woodstock" - same sort of reach for significance, same sort of fear and defeatism - the way the song continually rallies and falls back to gloom. A lot of what's bad about political rock is how comfortable it sounds, in fact this is true of a lot of 'outsider rock': "Drive" is hardly difficult listening but it doesn't sound comfortable or resolved.

(Rhead's "Creep" has a similar structure to "Drive" but I never get the feeling Thom Yorke is as troubled by his squalling creepdom as Stipe is troubled by the big rumbling bassy questions that "Drive" can't answer. The rest of Automatic For The People is I suppose an attempt to answer them, or get angry at them or turn away from them.)

Re: REM - Drive

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I didn't actually realise until many, many years later that "Bush-whacked" was a pun!

At the time...

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

1992 was the last year I did a "tracks of the year" list, although the cracks were already showing since I was putting entire EPs into single slots in the Top 15. (Brits will remember that indie bands were very big on EPs in the early 90s.) From 1993 onwards I gave up and just compiled a (much shorter) singles/EPs of the year list. Perhaps not coincidentally, around this time I also began to get somewhat disillusioned with new music - with a few notable exceptions (see below) - and started buying a lot more old music.

Anyway, the 1992 list is FAR TOO embarrassing to post here. But let's just say the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy were #1 in both my tracks list and albums list and leave it at that. (Actually, I still like their stuff quite a lot.)

Other artists I liked a lot at the time and which may or may not feature in my Top 15 are:
- Belly and The Cranberries (saw both of these live when they toured the UK together) plus obv Throwing Muses still
- Shonen Knife, Babes In Toyland, L7
- Shut Up and Dance (I've still got an original SUAD Records sweatshirt that I bought from PJ & Smiley by mailorder before legal action forced them to close the original label)
- En Vogue
- Arrested Development
- The Orb, FSOL, Aphex Twin, The KLF, Saint Etienne
- Denim
- pretty much everything released on the Too Pure label; my Stereolab obsession pretty much took off in '92, So the answer for every year from now on to the "What were you into at the time" question will be "Stereolab".

Let me make an unpopular comment

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

"One" is a classic song, as you all know deep down and refuse to admit because we are now living through the high years of U2 backlash. If Bono et al don't sell the damn thing for too many commercials, in 10 or 15 years you will look back at your votes and say, "Well, that was rubbish of me."

Re: Let me make an unpopular comment

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

It is a good song! Just not as great as any of the ones I ticked. Someone needs to cover it, that would be better than the original.