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1989, the number, another poll - something to do while you count the minutes until POPTIMISM TONIGHT AT THE UNION TAVERN (ahem).

Only EIGHT picks this time because Tone Loc's "Wild Thing" was a duplicate.

[Poll #837465]

Sweet Jop Of Ours (1988)

1. Push It (38 votes)
2. Sweet Child O Mine (35)
3. Don't Believe The Hype (34)
4. Paid In Full (33)
5. Alphabet Street (28)
6. Birthday (27)
7. Crash (26)
8. Welcome To The Jungle (25)
9. My Prerogative (23)
10=. Fast Car (20)
10=. It Takes Two (20)

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From:

dubdobdee.livejournal.com

d00ds! KORITFW!! that alone (courtesy geeta i believe?) redeems him forever

anyway he needs no redemption: neil young is beyond awesome and h4t4s can FUCK OFF but this is maybe not his best song possibly

also ageism can FUCK OFF -- for a start there is no more rockist trope -- and if you don't want to be bothered with the past you SHOULD HAVE BEEN BORN EARLIER

From:

koganbot

Lex, I cannot express to you how much better "Keep On Rockin' in The Free World" is than those Living Colour and Replacements songs.

Think of Neil's relationship to the free world as equivalent to Lindsay Lohan's relationship to her dad. In other words, he doesn't know what he's saying but he knows how to say it, so (as I said in one of the other subthreads) he's beautifully emotionally committed to his extravagant whiffling.

From:

byebyepride.livejournal.com

That sort of makes sense. I will listen again with new ears.

From:

koganbot

My favorite Neil Young songs are "Cowgirl in the Sand" and "Down By The River," both of which are interminable and have worse rhythm than a tin can rolling to a stop, but are just these absolutely emotional expressionist guitar and vocal-pang slabs of, um, emotional expression. The delicate beauty of high-school despair raised to a very indelicate level.

From:

koganbot

Everything being equal, capital-I Importance/pseudo-Importance will enrich a song not harm it, but unfortunately the capital-I Importance often creates a dynamic in which everything is not equal and many other music aspects wither in the shadow of Importance.

Notice that I ticked "Self-Destruction" and "Janie's Got a Gun," the first most seriously addressing an issue of Importance (and not being full of air about it, but not making a dent on the problem, either, and there's the disconcerting fact that "we're heading for self-destruction" is delivered in such a way that the sound is utterly enticing and catchy), the second very modestly addressing an issue (incest, child abuse) just then coming into public consciousness.

From:

giddyoldgoat.livejournal.com

i almost burst into tears when i read this post (ambushed by unexpected defense of neil young)

one of the many things I love abt neil is that he's never consistent - ie he flip-flops from Trans to Old Ways, Rockin' in the Free World to Greendale, Let it Roll to Living Through War all the time, he's never dogmatic or certain, he's doubtful flexible or undecided - LIKE US

From:

dubdobdee.livejournal.com

yes i wz gnna say what's great abt him is he's not bothered whether he's good or not -- which is obv a lousy way to say what's good abt him! also it doesn't separate him properly from what appears to be BAD abt the stones from around this date (tho rly we need DAVE Q here to pick his way through the grate late late stones)

From:

koganbot

"It Won't Take Long" on the recent alb can fend off most of Exile On Main Street (exceptions being "Ventilator Blues," which was done better by Richard Hell anyway, and "Turd On the Run" and "Stop Breaking Down" and maybe "Rip This Joint" and "Hip Shake" and "Rocks Off"). Of course, I'm no Exile worshipper - side two is where they go deep into the sap and run-of-the-mill groove-spoodge that they've tended to rely on for the last 35 years - but it is its own beauty poem of sorts and is great, if vastly vastly vastly overrated.