The History Of Jop Part 10 aka I had a feeling I could be someone

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

1988 - and it's a winner! (Also possibly your only chance ever to vote, vote, vote for the Wilburys in a Poptimists Poll)


[Poll #835009]

1987 - What The Jop Was Going On?

1=. Sign O The Times (33 votes)
1=. Pump Up The Volume (33 votes)
1=. Bring The Noise (33 votes)
4. Faith (29)
5=. U Got The Look/Housequake (24)
5=. It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine) (24)
5=. I Know You Got Soul (24)
8. The One I Love (22)
9. Don't Dream It's Over (19)
10. Luka (18)

MARRS and PE got 6 'best' votes each, Prince got 8.

Comments

Re: Meanwhile in Britain

[juror8.livejournal.com]

Lex, comparing the 1988 P&J with the 2005 P&J, how can a top ten consisting of The Travelling Wilburys and Midnight Oil (and Tracey Chapman and Public Enemy for that matter) be one that focuses less on "gravitas" and "proper music" than the 2005 top 10, which contained a reality TV show winner singing a Max Martin track, the theme song from a Will Smith romcom, a woman in her mid 30s doing a cheerleading chant, and DJ Paul being a dog, one you do not trust?

Re: Meanwhile in Britain

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Erm that is not what I was saying at all.

Re: Meanwhile in Britain

[juror8.livejournal.com]

You were saying that rockism (ie, values, importance, Proper Musics, etc etc etc) was a lot more prealent in modern day critic polls than 80s ones. How do THE FACTZ fit into this?

Re: Meanwhile in Britain

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I didn't say anything about modern day polls! I was just surprised that 80s polls were less rockist than I'd assumed.

Re: Meanwhile in Britain

[juror8.livejournal.com]

"I am beginning to wonder when trad rockism actually crept into the music media"

So rockism must have crept into the music media at some point between 1988 and 2006 then! All I'm saying is I can't think of a more rockist band than Public Enemy.

Re: Meanwhile in Britain

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Yes but equally it might have gone away again. I didn't have 2000s polls in mind as a comparison! I don't really know as I have never followed any section of the music press closely and to an extent I don't really care.

Re: Meanwhile in Britain

[juror8.livejournal.com]

Singles polls aren't the place to judge this anyway, even the dullest Ryan-Adams-Wilco-and-Coldplay pumping music critic will vote for "Just good old fashioned pop music" in his singles list. Because singles aren't as "important".

Re: Meanwhile in Britain

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The Pazz and Jops are disproof of this to some extent! In his essay for this year Christgau mentions that one reason new wave warhorses like U2 etc didnt do so well is that they accidentally said "Put 5 singles" not "Put 10 singles" on the ballot, and the people who didn't really care about singles didnt bother to change it from 5 to 10 when the mistake was pointed out.