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The Pazz and Jop poll for 1987, revisited. You get nine choices.


[Poll #832067]


1986: The Jip-Jop Wars (Poptimist Version)

1. West End Girls (38 votes)
2. Word Up (35)
3=. Walk This Way (33)
3=. Fight For Your Right To Party (33)
3=. Papa Don't Preach (33)
6=. Kiss (31)
6=. Walk Like An Egyptian (31)
8. Manic Monday (25)
9=. Rise (18)
9=. Nasty (18)
9=. Addicted To Love (18)

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

Date: 2006-09-28 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
I dug out my pile of UK music press cuttings from 86 and 87 last night. I was hoping to find some of the Xmas '87 issue of MM in there but that issue is either in storage or I have thrown it out :(

I do remember the individual MM writers' lists of 20 favourite tracks of 1987 being particularly inspiring. And obv far more wide ranging than the singles poll results would suggest - album and EP tracks by the likes of Arthur Russell, Jane Siberry and the new noiseniks like The Young Gods (who won the MM albums poll), AR Kane and Loop.

I did find plenty of interesting articles though: this was the year that Reynolds and Stubbs were allowed to write manifestos disguised as features on a fairly regular basis. There's a particularly striking one from the issue dated Nov 14th called "Schemers, Dreamers" having a go at what they called Pop Entryists and praising the return to remystification and the "intuitive rock" of e.g. the above-mentioned artists. I expect [livejournal.com profile] dubdobdee could find plenty to argue with in this piece.

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

Date: 2006-09-28 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com
man alive, i forgot the sucrecubes! they made a big impression on newly-indified alang.

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

Date: 2006-09-28 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com
actually what a great year. so much on those lists. i was a hopeless indie innit. sisters of mercy, new order, swans, JAMC, PSBs, smiths, marrs, weddoes. SWOON.

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

Date: 2006-09-28 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giddyoldgoat.livejournal.com
I'm not quite sure what pigfuck is/was, but this was def. the golden era of Forced Exposure rockwrite - my first exposure to Meltzer and Coley and all kinds of gd weird shit

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

Date: 2006-09-28 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/
pigfuck = i dimly recall Fritz and his (I think) ilm thread on this.

always assumed it was sorta hardcore w/these hardcore-type jokes that were often funny (butthole surfers the best example) but often not (naming a band 'rapeman').

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

Date: 2006-09-28 03:57 pm (UTC)
koganbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] koganbot
Yeah. Where's dubdob? I'm getting antsy.

Re: Meanwhile In Britain

Date: 2006-09-28 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
sorry i was out of the hallway and in the classroom all day -- plus i have ppl comin round tonight AND a moomins paper to write the proposal for :(

(haha oops i got called out for GIGGLING during the course-director's induction speech!)

(why do brit academics say "my work is based around issues of _____ and _________" instead of "my work is ABOUT _____ and _______"?)

Re: Meanwhile In England

Date: 2006-09-28 03:52 pm (UTC)
koganbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] koganbot
Spoonie Gee made a list! And Schoolly's Saturday Night was my #2 alb! (Schoolly was a white critics' darling. I doubt that anyone black ever voted for him.)

(You needed to bold paid in full (made P&J '88) and if girlfriend and second Chilton.)

Re: Schoolly / Just Ice

Date: 2006-09-28 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Schoolly was a white critics' darling
Hmm, yes. Saturday Night was NME's #20 LP. And Schoolly D made both the MM and NME Top 30 albums in 1986.

Another rapper whom this same set of UK critics loved was Just Ice. What was he like? I think I only own one song by him.

Re: Meanwhile In England

Date: 2006-09-28 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
Sign 'O' the times - Prince --- excellent
Paid in full - Eric B & Rakim --- ditto esp.w naughty COLDCUT REMIX by my chums COLDCUT
Big decision - That petrol emotion --- zzz
Rebel without a pause - Public enemy --- i am not now the PE fan i wz then
Pump up the volume - M/A/R/R/S --- great idea, soso execution
I know you got soul - Eric B & Rakim --- has slipped my memory@
Hit the north - The Fall --- OH NO IT'S THE FALL
Birthday - The sugercubes --- loved this then
True faith - New order --- i get NO's singles all muddled
Females - Cookie crew --- must go back and check out
Girlfriend in a coma - The smiths --- idea and performance perfectly mesh
Hey love - King sun D moet --- POLLWINNER
Rent - Pet shop boys --- PSB were still divisive at this point!
Fight for your right - Beastie boys --- fun IN A GOOD WAY
If I was your girlfriend - Prince --- my fave prince idea
Get down - Derek B --- WHATEVER HAPPENED TO
Fairy tale of new York - The pogues --- i love this song
Boops(here to go) - Sly and robbie --- grebt track from a grebt LP
Birth school work death - The godfathers --- hate em
He's a whore/The model - Big black --- the KW cover is aces
The albums of jack - The bachelor pad --- totally forgtten
First we take Manhattan - Jennifer warnes --- prob marvy (don't remember)
This brutal house - Nitro deluxe --- pretty good
April skies - The Jesus and Mary chain --- this wz their mellow skies MOR period, no?
You're gonna get yours - Public enemy --- mist check again
Someday - Ce ce Rogers --- don't recall
My favourite dress - The wedding present --- oh dear
Saturday night - Schoolly D --- EGHAM!
Never gonna give you up - Rick Astley --- awesome, shd have been higher
It's a sin - Pet shop boys --- ditto
Alex Chilton - The Replacements --- bah
The godfather - Spoonie Gee --- dwarfs PE i now think
New mind - Swans --- in the senescence of their sell-out autumn
Downtown - Justified Ancients of Mu Mu --- need to reassess
I am the law - Anthrax --- wanted to like but anthrax are boring except they gave me the idea for my BEARD!
Beaver patrol - Pop will eat itself --- FUCK OFF
Letter from America - The Proclaimers --- triffic
All you need is love - Justified Ancients of Mu Mu --- see above
There’s a ghost in my house - The Fall --- ON NO IT'S THE FALL
It’s not heaven - Blind mice --- wtf
Beats and pieces - Cold cut --- haha MY FRIENDS WHO I AM FRIENDS WITH
Rock da house - Cookie Crew --- yaya cookie crew
What have I done to deserve this - Pet shop boys --- see above
There ain’t nothin’ like shaggin’ - The Tams --- not sure i ever heard this
Chasin a dream - Tashan --- ditto
Indians - Anthrax --- zzz
Lolita - AR Kane --- not as bad as hidnsight wants me to think it
What’s my scene? - The hoodoo gurus --- sigh
La isla Bonita - Madonna --- for years my favourite madge cut (why?)
The Kray twins - Renegade sound wave --- haha i wrote a v.poor feature on RSW --- they were SHIT
Brilliant Disguise - Bruce Springsteen --- don't remember
Sho’ you right - Barry White --- ditto
Jump start - Natalie Cole --- ditto sadly
Mary’s prayer - Danny Wilson --- totally forgotten
Shoplifters of the world unite - The Smiths --- dull
Who’s afraid of the big bad noise - Age of chance --- WORSE THAN RENEGADE SOUND WAVE
Walk away - Surf drums --- what's this?
Build - The Housemartins --- i hate em
Touch of grey - The Grateful Dead --- THIS MUST STAND
If you let me stay - Terence Trent D’Arby --- hahhaahhhahahhahha

*(this was a pretty miserable and disenchanting time for me -- i wasn't being blocked any more at nme and i was getting good work at wire but i didn't know how to frame the "think i wanted to do"; the african pop i loved was caught up in a marketing shift which i disliked ("world music"); and i was only half-way to being an ok writer really)

Re: Meanwhile In England

Date: 2006-09-28 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
the upside was reading frank and chuck and greg tate in the voice and plunging into an inky undergrowth of us zines

Re: Meanwhile In England

Date: 2006-09-28 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/
"La isla Bonita - Madonna --- for years my favourite madge cut (why?)"

weirdly enough this is my fave from her (if i were to name one), but its prob bcz i think there should be more flamenco flavoured p0p.

Re: Cookie Crew

Date: 2006-09-29 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Females - Cookie crew --- must go back and check out
It's utterly fab. But I only heard it in 1988, otherwise it might well have been very high on my list*. ("Rok Da House" their collab w/ The Beatmasters is also great - the start of UK hip house, of which much more should be said when we get to '88).

*I do right by the Cookies when we get to '89.

Re: Meanwhile In England

Date: 2006-09-29 02:52 pm (UTC)
koganbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] koganbot
I know you got soul - Eric B & Rakim --- has slipped my memory@

Bites a line from M/A/R/R/S.*

Unfortunately, can't find the original on YouTube, just some dorky remixes.

*Just kidding.

An pedant writes

Date: 2006-09-29 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anatol-merklich.livejournal.com
"Rok da House" should properly be credited to Beatmasters ft Cookie Crew, I think?

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