The History Of Jop Part 7 aka We're Rockers And Rappers United And Strong

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The Pazz and Jop polls take us to the fairly unheralded year of 1985, and the selection is.....well, judge for yourself and discuss below. You get NINE votes, cast them wisely.

Notes: The John Fogerty song that got in last time rose to #3(!!) this time. It was excluded.


[Poll #826538]


The Joptimists 1984 Vote Verdict:

1. Girls Just Wanna Have Fun (38 votes)
2. When Doves Cry (37 votes)
3. Jump (31)
4=. I Feel For You (28)
4=. Time After Time (28)
6. Let's Go Crazy (23)
7. What's Love Got To Do With It (21)
8. Dancing In The Dark (20)
9=. Free Nelson Mandela (19)
9=. Let's Hear It For The Boy (19)

Comments

Meanwhile in England

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

NME Top 50 Singles (crossovers in bold)

Never Understand - The Jesus & Mary Chain
Just Like Honey - The Jesus & Mary Chain
Running Up That Hill - Kate Bush
How Soon Is Now - The Smiths
Tupelo - Nick Cave
You Trip Me Up - The Jesus & Mary Chain
Yesterday's Men - Madness
Single Life - Cameo
A Pair Of Brown Eyes - The Pouges
Death Valley '69 - Sonic Youth & Lynda Lunch
Death Of A European - The Three Johns
Here I Come - Barrington Levy
Nightshift - The Commodores
Caravan Of Love - Isley, Jasper, Isley
Back In Stride - Maze
Johnny Come Home - Fine Young Cannibals
Boys Of Summer - Don Henley
Into The Groove - Madonna
Status Quo - Donald Banks
Blue - Fine Young Cannibals
All Fall Down - Primal Scream
Sho' Nuff Bumpin' - Eu
Makes No Scence At All - Husker Du
Bonzo Goes To Bitburg - Ramones
Jumping Into Love - Champion Doug Veitch
Cruiser's Creek/La - The Fall
Still Smokin' - Troublefunk
The Wind Of Change - Robert Wyatt & The Swapo Singers
Time After Time - Miles Davis
Up The Hill Down The Slope - The Loft
Under Me Sleng Teng - Wayne Smith
Born In The USA - Bruce Springsteen (previous poll)
Lover Girl - Teena Marie
Let My People Go - The Winans
King Of Rock - Run Dmc
Road To Nowhere - Talking Heads
Motor Slug - Wiseblood
Let Them Eat Bogshed - Bogshed
Turn It Up - Conway Brothers
Raspberry Beret - Prince
Move Closer - Phyllis Nelson
How Will The Wolf Survive?/Don't Worry Baby - Los Lobos
Raping A Slave - The Swans
Set It Off - Strafe
Fields Of Glass - Thetriffids
Movin' 'N' Groovin' - Redds And The Boys
Ironmasters - Men They Couldn't Hang
Uncle Sam - Madness
Birthday Girl - Microdisney
Yu Gung - Einsturzende Neubauten

Re: Meanwhile in England

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

WHAT DID YOU VOTE FOR UNCLE SUKRAT?

Re: Meanwhile in England

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

J&MC were my first "hmm, this indie it intrigues me" band. and by 86 i was into specific bands a lot more

Re: Meanwhile in England

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

ans = RAPING A SLAVE tho not sure if i had a vote as MAT SNOW HATED ME

Never Understand - The Jesus & Mary Chain -- liked too much; jamc are OK but
Just Like Honey - The Jesus & Mary Chain -- see above
Running Up That Hill - Kate Bush -- AWESOME KATE
How Soon Is Now - The Smiths -- was against the smiths then; less so now
Tupelo - Nick Cave -- the cave shtick was still young and fresh
You Trip Me Up - The Jesus & Mary Chain -- see above
Yesterday's Men - Madness -- BLEAKERDAMMRUNG
Single Life - Cameo -- whatever happened to? CODPIECE IN OUR TIME
A Pair Of Brown Eyes - The Pouges -- soso on pogues
Death Valley '69 - Sonic Youth & Lynda Lunch -- worst evs SY release; i probably marked it high
Death Of A European - The Three Johns -- awful
Here I Come - Barrington Levy -- FAB!!
Nightshift - The Commodores -- i like the commodores
Caravan Of Love - Isley, Jasper, Isley -- disappointing
Back In Stride - Maze -- FRANKIE BEVERLEY'S MAZE call them by their name (i like maze but can't recall this)
Johnny Come Home - Fine Young Cannibals -- yuk
Boys Of Summer - Don Henley -- probbly pretty good
Into The Groove - Madonna -- YAY MADGE
Status Quo - Donald Banks -- i know nothing of this except i hope ver quo made an answer record
Blue - Fine Young Cannibals -- yuk x 2
All Fall Down - Primal Scream -- AAARGH!
Sho' Nuff Bumpin' - Eu -- wot is this? carmody to thread!! (is it gogo?)
Makes No Scence At All - Husker Du -- totally forgotten
Bonzo Goes To Bitburg - Ramones -- dated idea poorly executed
Jumping Into Love - Champion Doug Veitch -- !!!
Cruiser's Creek/La - The Fall -- not all that; i have tried to love it
Still Smokin' - Troublefunk -- more gogo
The Wind Of Change - Robert Wyatt & The Swapo Singers -- is this a SCORPIONS cover??
Time After Time - Miles Davis -- EXCELLENT
Up The Hill Down The Slope - The Loft -- sigh
Under Me Sleng Teng - Wayne Smith -- grebt
Born In The USA - Bruce Springsteen (previous poll) -- pah!
Lover Girl - Teena Marie -- teena is a goddess but i didn't spot that then
Let My People Go - The Winans -- superworthy
King Of Rock - Run Dmc -- nearly there
Road To Nowhere - Talking Heads -- their last good song?
Motor Slug - Wiseblood -- dreadful
Let Them Eat Bogshed - Bogshed -- MY LOVELY BOGSHED i hate em so
Turn It Up - Conway Brothers -- ??
Raspberry Beret - Prince -- TIPTOP
Move Closer - Phyllis Nelson -- good if it's what i'm thinkin of
How Will The Wolf Survive?/Don't Worry Baby - Los Lobos -- borin sadly
Raping A Slave - The Swans -- BEST RECORD EVER MADE
Set It Off - Strafe -- not a clue
Fields Of Glass - The Triffids -- not the Triffids one good song
Movin' 'N' Groovin' - Redds And The Boys -- more gogo (gogo wz borin)
Ironmasters - Men They Couldn't Hang -- grrrr
Uncle Sam - Madness -- ok
Birthday Girl - Microdisney -- RUBBISH ON A STICK
Yu Gung - Einsturzende Neubauten -- TREE-MEND-US

Re: Meanwhile in England

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I think it's a Scorpions PROPHECY!

Re: Meanwhile in England

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

TELL ME MORE ABOUT BOGSHED.

Re: Meanwhile in England

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i have always found em annoying until somone called BOB SNOOM popped up on ilm and referred to them as "my lovely bogshed" which made me like him (and them) until i heard their "music" again -- so i stole his phrase and use it for everyone else

that Snoom thread

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=1647616

I assume from what you say above that you sorted out yr Stump confusion?

I know of one (1) good Bogshed song = "Into Me" (from 1987)

Re: that Snoom thread

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

my lovely stump!

Re: that Snoom thread

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i am not mark e!!

oops

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

skimmed thread too quickly

Re: Meanwhile in England

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

they were "indie band with funny name" #1. others in the same list around that time: death by milk float, four heads in a fishtank, and ken dodd's dad's dog's dead

Re: Meanwhile in England

[anatol-merklich.livejournal.com]

It was even FOREHEADS in a fishtank, wasn't it?

Re: Meanwhile in England

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

YES!

Re: Meanwhile in England

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

not to mention LAWNMOWER DETH

Re: Meanwhile in England

[koganbot]

Have you still never heard "Set It Off? It's fabulous (though ignore the Jenny Holzerisms of this art video, which was the only thing I've found so far on YouTube that uses the song).

Re: Meanwhile in England

[koganbot]

Wait, here's a much better vid for "Set It Off".

Re: Meanwhile in England

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

it's great but i never heard it till now!

Re: Meanwhile in England

[koganbot]

I'm surprised that "Set It Off" didn't make Pazz & Jop, given that it's the sort of leftfield dance track that NY critics tend to love. Like "Heartbeat." Perhaps Xgau's expanded the voter base enough that the NY critics were losing their clout. Also, I don't think it got airplay (unlike "Heartbeat," which was a bona fide radio hit in NY). I heard it because I read about it in the Voice.

Re: Meanwhile in England

[koganbot]

The YouTube versions clipped off the famous beginning, which you probably have heard, sampled or copied: "Y'All wanna get this party started, RIGHT? Y'all wanna get this party started QUICKLY! RIGHT?" So this is telling you that the music must save you, this dance, this night. A lot like Shannon's "Let the Music Play." All this is what stuff like Madonna's "Get Into the Groove" springs from.

Re: Meanwhile in England

[koganbot]

Er, but I misquoted it. Here's the real thing:

"Y'All want this party started, RIGHT? Y'All want this party started, QUICKLY! RIGHT?"