the BADCRAP BARFS more like

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i. ok so out of "scholarly diligence" i watched the repeated omnibus about syd b last night
ii. and confirmed that barrett-era PF = post-barrett PF = post-PF barrett = ALL AS USELESS AS ONE ANOTHER
iii. except then i slept and dremt ALL NIGHT dreams soundtracked by barrett songs >:(

so this raises the deep poptimist question: is a tune that sticks in yr mind GOOD even if you HATE IT -- isn't the craft of melody a kind of nerve-glue to attach you to a ahem "work" so that yr feelings of some particular moment get externalised into it and there replayed?

anyway i am quite happy to grant that SB had an unusual facility with oddly shaped song-flow, burden and refrain* -- except i think i would also argue that the collective direction of the outfit he founded was increasingly at odds with this gift (cf also curtis and JD-NO)... they were fashioning a monumental high-volume drone juggernaut; his gift was quirkily quaint'Nquiet little broke-back ditties -- and that the split (as with joy div) was inevitable on musical grounds; the psycho-chemical context a pretext for sentimentalists and clueless romantics

ps the documentary itself was incredibly lame and lazy in almost every regard

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[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

This deep poptimist question has been preying on me over recent weeks as I am completely unable to free Sandi Thom from my brain. It is particularly afflicting me when I am doing the washing up, for some reason.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Every morning I awake with a particular song in my head. Usually it is something current, or something I've heard in the last week or two eg recent ones have included Lily Allen, T99, My Humps etc.

This morning I woke up with Jon Secada's Just Another Day Without You.

It's still in my head! I have not heard this song for approximately 8 years! Does this mean it is a good song?

the legacy

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

fair enough to interview other PF members, manager, gfs etc, for the story of the story (even if NOT A SHRED OF NEW INFO IS GLEANED THEREBY)

but to examine the (yuk) "inflewence": graham "ug" COXON and rybyn :"gah!" HYTCHCYCK is BY NO MEANS GOOD ENUFF ye pitiful L4YM0Rz

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

doc i watched last nigh was about DDR!

[http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/]

wsn't Syd really the driving force/centre for the high-volume drone juggernaut (can you find anything like 'Interstellar Overdrive' in the rest of PF's catalogue?) AS WELL as someone who had the facility for (ugh) 'child-like' choons?

i wake up with little 5 second Morton Feldman riffs?

When Choons Turn BAD

[hoshuteki.livejournal.com]

I'd like to argue that waking up and/or spending every moment of yr day with a tune in the head = a BAD thing, because what is the basis of GOODness if not ENJOYMENT and constant torment ftb a song's catchiness* surely = a lack thereof. Therefore Song is BAD. QED. Or not, perhaps, but sometimes I find myself turning against things for this reason.

[* cf: 'catch' the flu, 'catch' deadly bubonic plague, 'catch' 22, et al.]

[mippy.livejournal.com]

I Do Not Do Floyd, but I quite like the Barret era. I was discussing Robyn Hitchcock (whom I heart) with a friend who compared him to Barrett: 'manufactured whimsy'. I'm a big fan of unusually-shaped songs, and will forever be fond of Bike after a Bash Street Kids cartoon showed the teacher going mad in the last frame and reciting the lyrics from it.

Songs that always get stuck in my head FOREVER:
1. Teardrops by Womack and Womack
2. One Nation Under A Groove
3. Automatic by The Pointer Sisters
4. Love is Contaaaaaaaa-jus by Taja Sevelle

It's easy (well, not easy, but you know what I mean) enough to write a catchy melody. Advertisers do it all the time. But as much as they tend to stick in my head afterwards, they don't tend to come to mean anything to me. Songs are different, I know, because generally they're not extolling the virtues of Charnock Richard Cycles but something a bit closer to the human condition, but catchiness is the work of the artisan and not the artist.

I think.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Where is missing footnote?