POPFITES 11 and 12!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

An easy win last time for Madonna and barely less so for Kylie - so far we've not had a really close pop star fite - maybe these will provide it. It's an ALL-BOY SPECIAL with pop's most laconic star facing off against an indie icon, and a second contest between two stars who may not immediately yell 'pop' at you...


[Poll #777606]


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Comments

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

CLASH OF THE POLLS!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Who is Hank Williams?!

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Clint Eastwood's brother.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Really? What songs does he have?

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

No, not really. Here he is (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Williams).

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I have never heard of ANY of his songs.

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

I don't really know any Hank Williams songs but I heard that like Johnny Cash he was a complete git.

[juror8.livejournal.com]

I nommed Hank. You know how comedy bores always go "Oh, Graham Chapman/Peter Cook achieved everything they wanted to, so just spent the next 20 years of their life drinking themselves to death. Hank Williams managed to drink himself to death after reaching the pinnacle of music in about three months. He was kind of the first Pop Star as we appreciate it these days (maybe Cab Calloway was actually first, though?). He died young, which is POP, and his songs were about TEENAGE STUFF LIKE TAKING YOUR GIRL OUT TO DINNER and KILLING YOURSELF, which is also pop.

Anyone whom doesn't have any Hank in their life needs to get dumped, buy some bourbon, and then ask me for recommendations.

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

But you probably do know some without realising it.

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

i'm sure i do!

Key Williams fact (thanx Wikipedia):

[byebyepride.livejournal.com]

He was named after Hiram I of Tyre

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Am I alone in thinking Jarvis Cocker isn't a very good pop star? He made some very good records, and he was fantastic value in the indie press, but...

(Of course, maybe Chris Lowe is a WORSE pop star, but I think "Standing still and never saying anything" is a TERRIFIC schtick!)

[martinskidmore.livejournal.com]

Jarvis was a great performer and was often very entertaining on TV, so I think he was a great pop star.

I love Mick and Hank comparably, but Mick seems closer to my idea of a pop star, so he edges it.

[lockedintheatti.livejournal.com]

I get the impression that Chris's musical tastes (lots of dance music, espcially of the Italian variety) help to balance out some of Neil's more arty pretensions, without which the PSBs wouldn't be as great pop stars as they are.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Making an arse of yourself >>> not making an arse of yourself (this is the indie position perhaps, but still true).

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I should have rigged it so it was Jarvis v Jacko, just like in the old days. One of the most entertaining ILM threads I can remember was somebody - Ethan? - saying that Jarvis was a tool for his Brits stunt and that Jacko was utterly his pop superior. The squawks of outrage were great!

Pulp were great but Jarvis is a bit of a fanny really.

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

i wish i'd nominated Ron Mael now.

Jarvis ISN'T a fanny, this is the problem! he talks nothing but sense all the time and he wrote great lyrics. it's really hard to criticise him for anything other than being the epitomy of Indie Fop pin-up if you think that can only ever be a bad thing. but after initially thinking he seemed like too much of a pretentious tosser the first time i saw the videos for 'Do You Remember The First Time' and 'Common People' i ended up hearting him as much as anyone else (except perhaps those crazy Japanese girls).

[awesomewells.livejournal.com]

Oh come on Jarvis is fantastic and not a fanny IN ANY WAY. I might go as far as to say Jarvis > better than Pulp.

Who nominated Chris Lowe anyway?

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Lowe got two separate noms! (Neither of them me)

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

I think what seals it for Jarvis is that he can stand out on his own as a pop star i.e. it often felt as if Jarvis WAS Pulp and the rest of the band didn't matter. Whereas Lowe on his own would just be a pretty great dance music anorak producer bloke like Vince Clarke (who is borderline genius but you don't think of him as an actual pop star do you?)

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

altho he made a good Agnetha!

[nicolars.livejournal.com]

How could anyone vote for Mick Jagger?!?!?! Gross, just gross.

[dickmalone.livejournal.com]

But hours of entertainment!

[jel-bugle.livejournal.com]

Pet Shop Boy should be beating Jarvis.