Mar. 8th, 2007

[identity profile] blue-russian.livejournal.com
We all read fluxblog, don't we? Yes, of course, we do. Matthew really seems to have raised his game over the last year or so, don't you think? Well, I just wanted to call people's attention to a post he updated yesterday. Somehow I would expect we'll all agree with his basic idea, if not about the specific example, although there's quite a bit too tease out.

I'll excerpt the relevant bit:

I'd like to address this comment left in the box below, which more or less echoes what I was railing against the last time I wrote about CSS at length:

I'm sure Lovefoxxx is not emoting that much. She's in a dance band for crying out loud and not a very good one. - Anon

To a certain extent this (obviously quite brave!) anonymous poster is entitled to their opinion, and since it is apparent that they haven't given this a great deal of thought, it's not really worth arguing with them, at least not in the interest of trying to change their mind. But honestly, there's no way I can read this sort of comment without assuming some pretty harsh things -- mainly, that they seem to have extremely rigid and unimaginative ideas about what signifies intelligent and emotionally moving art.

I think that a lot of the problem that some people run into with CSS is that their record is very much a product of the present tense, and though I believe that accounts for a great deal of its beauty, art that is so tied into a moment that will inevitably pass tends to freak out a certain type of insecure fan who demands permanence and timelessness, often because they are terrified of ever having to admit that they enjoyed something that has since become dated. If you want to cling to the notion of having an imagined aesthetic upper hand, you will most likely become allergic to this sort of music, and find refuge in safe bets. If you've conditioned yourself to think of contemporary culture (especially internet culture) as being an endless stream of vulgar novelty -- a notion that is not entirely inaccurate, by the way -- you've most likely blinded yourself to any art that speaks to the humanity and emotional truth of experiences within that culture.


Personally, I remember quite clearly a moment at uni when my roommate and I were questioning "Will we always like this music?" although for us I think it was a given that the music was timeless, and while it was we that would become dated.
[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
Here are [livejournal.com profile] xyzzzz_'s comments on the tracks he got, with rankings and win/lose info added by me.

After my meetings this afternoon, I will come back and edit for track names, titles and contributors - look for them around 5. Over to Julio:

"Thanks everyone - for additional fun, these scribbles come in with some added guessing of who might've sent the particular tracks.

KNOW BEST - None. ALSO KNOW - None.

01.mp3 Twilight Singers - "Live With Me" - All this pleading..."Come live with me?" sounds very hollow when the strings happen to be nastier than the booze. 10th Place - LOSE: Tactical nightmare for [livejournal.com profile] zenith

02.mp3 Patti Smith - "Because The Night" - Bonnie Tyler? w/ Elton John filling in on piano duty? Just so you know if my LPs were stolen I'd start again w/"Goodbye Yellow Brick Road". 6th Place - DRAW: smooth performance by [livejournal.com profile] strange_powers to avoid defeat.

03.mp3 Blind Guardian - "Turn The Page" - (Dubdobdee or jel?) "Come turn the wheel/there is nothing to feel/come turn the wheel/come turn the page" gets a ticky. No slow burner, this, very ON from beginning to end, with crunching riffs and pounding-rolling drumming. It sounds like the prog-metal that I haven't (unfortunately) gotten round to. 3rd Place - WIN: Attack! attack! attack! cries [livejournal.com profile] jel_bugle

04.mp3 Ceephax - "Rolls Royce" - Drill n' bassy? (I do, just about, remember that one Aphex Twin album that isn't "Selected Ambient Works vol.II") Bob Hoskins isn't having a great time, by the sounds of it. I should be laughing harder at this than I am. 11th Place - LOSE: [livejournal.com profile] katstevens on the wrong end of a hiding.

05.mp3 Miss Nicky Trax - "Acid In The House" - (Kat Stevens?) I'm so bad with words - I put in 'education..' after the 'don't need no..' on first few listens. Actually, wouldn't it be a GREAT idea to make a boshing cover of Pink Floyd's 1979 hit 'Another Brick in the wall' which has that same line? Better than its ranking. 7th Place - LOSE: battling performance but a cruel defeat for [livejournal.com profile] hauntedballroom

06.mp3 Barobax - "Ali-Gholi" - So given how bad I can be w/lyrics its no surprise that I have a taste for the non-sensical. This is a bit like (sound poet) Isidore Isou crossed with an African Farmer reciting a 'cow-milking' song (I have this on an LP somewhere) plastered onto a boshing background. The funniest track in the whole collection. 2nd Place - WIN: [livejournal.com profile] dubdobdee plays with a smile on his face.

07.mp3 Margaret Berger - "Elephant" - Could've been the grower. Purring engine electrics w/casio keyboards I find kind of uneasy with those tri-hoppy (?) vocals, especially at nearly 6 mins - the trumpet carries it nicely toward the end, but I don't know how much I can do with some of these lyrics/delivery. Maybe as weedy as those on track 3, except metallers know how to manage a ";-)" somewhere (?) 5th Place - WIN: [livejournal.com profile] inhibitorylinks leaves it late to snatch victory.

08.mp3 Natasha ft Clipse - "So Sick" - (The Lex? Should this be a guess?) Its Natasha 'So sick'. Identified this cuz there is talk of it on ILM's Rolling R&B thread - meant to click on her myspace but didn't until after hearing it in here, therefore I can't say that I knew it...quite like it but its 2 mins longer than it oughta to be, and handclapping is usually a winner but it seems kinda over-used. So I'm gonna put this behind shoegazing in the ranking, but I'm only doing it as I reckon everyone involved can do better. 9th Place - LOSE: complacency costs [livejournal.com profile] alexmacpherson's classy side dear.

09.mp3 Sonicflyer - "Sun In My Pocket" (Ben Graham? maybe jel?) "Every morning I wake up" - those riffs are very CONTENT (I'm quite happy to let them be by giving this a ticky), even if the words might be telling a different story. 4th Place - WIN: a good day at the office for player-manager [livejournal.com profile] fugitivemotel

10.mp3 Oi Va Voi - "Ladino Song" - Lhasa or quite similar? Don't know this track, love the voice/arrangement, and there can never be enough multi-lingual singer songwriters. There could've been 3-4 winners. I threw dice. Chance procedures, etc. :-) 1st Place - WIN: [livejournal.com profile] bengraham's cosmopolitan outfit romp home.

11.mp3 Xinlisupreme - "All You Need Is Love Is Not True" Its the year 2000. Spring-time. Mid-morning on the Docklands Light Railway. The singer (you all know who) of goth-folkeys Current 93 has just sat opposite me. Can't help but to look every now and again. He seems 'disturbed' by this and quickly moves somewhere. I'm disturbed that he is disturbed by this, so I get off at Greenwich, turn the corner to the record and tape exchange and go on to score a flying saucer attack compilation. Again, this is better than the ranking I've given it. 8th Place - LOSE: did [livejournal.com profile] braisedbywolves get his tactics wrong?
[identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com
Yeah yeah canon, yeah yeah "what's in the charts these days", SNORE SNORE more like. As it's sunny today, I was reminded about the glorious SHINE POLLS that I stopped doing at some point last year - goodness knows WHY! I'm pleasantly surprised by how many of these songs are of course, BLUDDY GRATE, and I hope you are too! Fighting Fit! Beautiful Ones! And Lost Myself by perennial Shine Poll favourites The Longpigs could mean this is a tuff battle! I tried to wear slides like Manda Rin, but my hair is too tough and big for it to work properly, though it did mean that Claire's Accessories (Blackpool branch) made a lot of money out of my valiant attempt to buy cutesy hairclips. On with the voting!!

[Poll #942460]
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also, dude in second verse, you have the worst service technique I have ever seen, including Elena Dementieva's. including my own

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