[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
Extreme Pop discussion on [livejournal.com profile] koganbot's LJ - relevant to here.

Actually when I nominated Bruce Springsteen's "Jungleland" in the what is Poptimism??? poll I had something like "EXTREME POP" in mind - though I don't know if "POP" is quite the word I want there, but "EXTREME ROCK" means something else, and "EXTREME ROCK N ROLL" surely means something else too, so maybe what I'm talking about is "EXTREME ROCKISM" (ha ha only joking) - that moment in the second (?) verse where Bruce is describing his imagined street scene, the neon signs, the hustling, the kids, and he's willing it to be real so much that it becomes overloaded, absurd, reaching the line -

"kids flash guitars just like switchblades"

- and it's something like cosplay or fan fiction, or Peter Pan urging the audience to believe in fairies, a beautiful desperate wish to bring the dream to life, like the supersaturated Guy Peelaert pics in Rock Dreams. It's the longing that makes me like this and hate, say, PRML SCRM, whose rock litanies are more like catechisms and always tinged with a grubby self-satisfaction that they're Livin' It.

The rest of the song is all post-coital disappointment of course.

Date: 2006-06-05 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steviespitfire.livejournal.com
"being (most) like bowie" is the vaguest thing ever! the laughing gnome or ziggy or earthling or WOT? or many you dont mean sonics and just mean rubbish mannered voice. note i have never heard candy's room.

Date: 2006-06-05 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
no one is not better when they sound most like laughing gnome!

anyway i meant rubbish mannered voice mainly! (ie "being" = "sounding vocally")

Date: 2006-06-05 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byebyepride.livejournal.com
I like Candy's Room but I've never thought of it as sounding like Bowie! I like early Springsteen when he sounds like he wants to be Dylan.

Date: 2006-06-05 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steviespitfire.livejournal.com
Ill stop being a wank after this but: doing = sounding vocally, surely?

haha 'doing' sounds a bit rude etc.

ok if you think it is clearer

Date: 2006-06-05 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
i like springsteen when he is doing most like bowie

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