BONUS QN

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

[Poll #726064]

CAUTION: If you tick options 1-3 above you are running the risk of the Lex coming round to your house and stamping his feet crossly at you.

Comments

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

we should talk about the new Futureheads single instead. it's Roddyframe-tastic!

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

well when i can get the mp3s in question. hem hem

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i fear not the wrath of rockist_justice

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

where is the poptimistically correct "it is also really good but their respective greatness is incomensurable without some form of rockist background assumptions"

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

have a look for it on the hype machine, as my site suggests ;)

i do keep meaning to do a massive mp3 ysi gala tho...

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

disclaimer: i am not sure i ever heard the FH versh

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i don't think commensurability is rockist per se: but the anti-rockist metric has to be determined in the social context of here and now -- it isn't based on pre-established inherited or shared assumptions

(viz it is ROCKIN TO SAY FH VERSH = BETTER bcz of the GLEE IT WILL ENGENDER in the COMMUNITY WE SHARE) (only works if combines with non-dreariness of versh in question possibly)

[dickmalone.livejournal.com]

Who is going to stamp their feet at me if I request the option of "I've never heard the Kate Bush version, but from the Futureheads' version I'd like to"?

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

you got me, i just threw rockism in there cos it's today's word. however there is a sense that the question is asked without context, hence background assumptions are the default, and the fight there is against the defaults that rockism can bring. or something.

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

Stamp, stamp.

[juror8.livejournal.com]

Differences between Futureheads take on this 80s pop song, and Prydz/Cabin Crew/Uniting Nations et al's takes on other 80s pop songs? Are there any? Reduce song to basest form to make it more danceable is surely the ultimate poppist aim.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

FHeads is a straight cover tho, not a fillet-and-filter job.

Basically it's like all those ska-punk covers of pop songs, which are also good obv.

[juror8.livejournal.com]

Do they come from the same place though? A sense of "Look, there's some fun (or at least fun as our fanbase understand it) to be had in this song!"

(My favourite ska punk cover is this Off By One's take on "Torn".)

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I can't believe you all. I can't believe anyone could hear the cover and not be NAUSEATED!!!!!

I especially can't believe the people who are trying to make out that the Futureheads are making it more pop! THEY ARE INDIE SATANS DESECRATING POP GODDESS K8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

THE FUTUREHEADS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FUN!!!!!! THEY ARE INDIE!!!!!!! INDIE IS NOT FUN!!!!!!!

[juror8.livejournal.com]

Futureheads fill more dancefloors than Kate Bush! FACT.

POM POM POM

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

must remember to write up THE HARDER THEY COME -- it featured an awesome reggae cover of a simon&garfunkel song

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

THERE ARE ONLY THREE TRUE POPTIMISTS.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Indie discos don't count as dancefloors, or as fun, or indeed as real proper places. They DISGUST ME!!!!!!!!!

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

true vs fake = TYPICAL INDIE-ROCKIST DISTINCTION (pom pom pom)

[mostlyconnect.livejournal.com]

i have never heard either!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

OK then only three poptimists are SANE while the other 22, who are apparently happy to have this song existing in the world, are COMPLETELY MENTAL!

The Futureheads took one of the most glorious gorgeous songs EVER by a NATIONAL TREASURE and had the NERVE to put HORRID GUITARS and their own DISGUSTING INDIE BOY VOICES on it!!!!!!!

"NATIONAL TREASURE" :D :D :D :D

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

o noes if we are completely mental how can we square that with the k.bush canon oh wait

[atommickbrane.livejournal.com]

FATS is an indie disco tho :)

Re: "NATIONAL TREASURE" :D :D :D :D

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

there is completely mental in a good way such as Our Kate and there is completely mental in a bad way ie liking horrid and bog-standard and very UNmental INDIE COVERS!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Sugar is an electropop disco! Electro/pop/r&b! No indie!

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

indie in attitude tho, which is the indiest thing you can be. and contrasting that (deliberately?) with pop just heightens that

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

thinking a piece of music is a disgrace is the exact OPPOSITE of poptimism

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

NONE OF US HAVE AN INDIE ATTITUDE!!!!!!!

I certainly don't!!!!! I don't even know what one IS.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

that is bcz you are looking at it from the inside!

and you can't even HAVE "inside" without "INDIE"

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Can we have a whipround to get awesomewells to play the Fheads?

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

MATT IF YOU DARE...

*SCREWFACE*

"kate bush covers" googled =

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

OMG sonny sharrock (http://gaffa.org/faq/faq_4_5.html)!

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

see also my comments further down about "thinking a piece of music is a disgrace = anti-poptimism"

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

which IS poor. i heard it live once. poor me.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

b-b-but there is music which IS a disgrace, and it is just a fact, and it has nothing to do with poptimism!

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS YR HONOUR

[boyofbadgers.livejournal.com]

Six letters: Ken Chu!

Re: "kate bush covers" googled =

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

also Pat Benatar!

"Our Life in the Bush of Kate" = worst rock pun EVAH

[spittake.livejournal.com]

and White Flag!

on the EXTREMELY INDIE Freedom of Choice compilation

Re: "kate bush covers" googled =

[giddyoldgoat.livejournal.com]

haha sonny sharrock and his (HORRIBLE INDIE) GUITAR