judicial reasoning

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

SONIC YOUTH ARE NOT INDIE ftb:
i. signed to geffen
ii. possibly that's IT unless being GOTH = not indie

SONIC YOUTH *ARE* INDIE ftb:
i. girl on bass
ii. the lex loves them
iii. "art pop" = indie by definition
iv. culturcide-style shenanigans w.the WHITEY ALBUM (obv they are better at shenanigans than culturcide cz they LIKE POP)
v. daydream nation!!
vi. "our" grateful dead
vii. postpunk = indie
viii. WALL OF GUITARS D00D!¡!

Comments

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

haha ok you;re the expert with the COMPLETE COLLECTION OF FLEXIDISCS

[boyofbadgers.livejournal.com]

Dude, I think the guy is mostly 1 x fool BUT he was totally inescapable in the mid-late 90s, if you were down with US nindie. Which I was. Unfortunately.

[hoshuteki.livejournal.com]

He did manage to appear as player/producer on all those Chicago-centred indie concerns, but then that part of the world all seemed to come out of a hardcore scene (Bastro, King Kong et al) and went down the post-rock route (Gastr del Sol, Tortoise, Chicago Underground Duo). All of his early releases were electroacoustic or musique concrète (or rock concrète, as I've heard his Brise-Glace project called); and he produced peeps like Tony Conrad and John Fahey. His earliest stuff with SY was on their SYR releases (SYR3 was a SY/JOR co-release, Musikaj Perspektivoj I think it was called; and SYR4 Goodbye 20th Century comes to mind). I don't think he was necessarily Herr Nindie, but maybe my selective memory is overlooking his indie concerns (I always imagined that was Steve Albini's side of the Chicago music-producing Reich) -- which didn't become clear till Eureka in the late-nineties.

I own far far too much of JOR's output.