judicial reasoning

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

SONIC YOUTH ARE NOT INDIE ftb:
i. signed to geffen
ii. possibly that's IT unless being GOTH = not indie

SONIC YOUTH *ARE* INDIE ftb:
i. girl on bass
ii. the lex loves them
iii. "art pop" = indie by definition
iv. culturcide-style shenanigans w.the WHITEY ALBUM (obv they are better at shenanigans than culturcide cz they LIKE POP)
v. daydream nation!!
vi. "our" grateful dead
vii. postpunk = indie
viii. WALL OF GUITARS D00D!¡!

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but on the not indie side

[dansette.livejournal.com]

iii. Genuine respect for the not very indie Karen Carpenter and Mariah Carey. Unless mental disorders make them kind of indie?

Re: but on the not indie side

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

this is borderline i think, cz they also approved and supported daniel [thingie], who is even more mad than mariah -- i have a carpenters covers compilation CD where the best thing is by shonen knife = NONE MORE INDIE in the HISTORY OF INDIE (ps i love shonen knife)

(mariah approval is just a GOOD THING ALL ROUND)

Re: but on the not indie side

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

johnson?

Re: but on the not indie side

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

yes him (i have been proofing the listings section all day and it is FULL OR ERRORS caused by a STUPID COMPUTER)

Re: but on the not indie side

[dansette.livejournal.com]

Daniel Johnston? Maybe just being feted by Sonic Youth makes Karen Carpenter indie but Mariah could never ever be indie not even if she collaborated with Shonen Knife on a song that mentioned the rain a lot.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i think this is fair and true -- they should have put something by her on GOODBYE 20TH CENTURY

Re: but on the not indie side

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I never knew SY loved mariah! Oh wow that makes them even acer.

Re: but on the not indie side

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

Bah you beat me to the userpic.

Re: but on the not indie side

[dansette.livejournal.com]

artistic_vices has it too but I had it first, so dere!

Re: but on the not indie side

[mooxyjoo.livejournal.com]

i have a hard time hearing 'arthyr doyle etc.' as all that respectful. not DISrespectful, maybe, but... deeply disapproving?

it seems to have little to say about her music qua music though. (even qua pop music!)