[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
Poptimists will be a bit quieter from tomorrow cos I'm going to France for a week - obviously this should not prevent many of the rest of you filling the space with joyful noises, polls, etc.

Germany vs England in the Pop World Cup - vote by TONIGHT. I'll do the result tomorrow before I go and then there's a wait of a week until Trinidad vs Ecuador - can the managers of those fine nations send me their MP3s in the meantime?

Now when you're asked Kylie's best song, you can answer in total confidence.

1. Better The Devil You Know (30 votes)
2. Can't Get You Out Of My Head (28)
3. Spinning Around (25) (this one is actually not true, surely!)
4. Confide In Me (23)
5. I Should Be So Lucky (22)
6. Hand On Your Heart (18)
7. Come Into My World (17)
8. Step Back In Time (16)
9=. Shocked (15)
9=. I Believe In You (15)

"If You Were With Me Now" is the only Kylie not to get a single vote.

Oh the hilarity

Chart History Shocker!: people like opera. (Also note the return of the 'climber' to the singles chart, k-blimey, it is Orson what nobody knew in the pop quiz lyrics round). Anyway, opera eh?

[Poll #694396]

Date: 2006-03-20 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cis.livejournal.com
Sung classical music != opera, dude!

I like classical a great deal and cannot stomach opera in the slightest (okay except the pop shiz like carmen which isn't even real opera anyway). I mislike the kind of mawkish tenor-aria bobbins pavarotti used to come out with, which I suspect is what these hit-album dudes are doing, but some classical singer albums can be k-amazing, even if there's a lot of stuff from operas on there.

Date: 2006-03-20 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Cis OTM

Good opera = Mozart arias, Peter Grimes, Carmen, Porgy and Bess, Love For 3 Oranges and that's it.

Date: 2006-03-20 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
also: LULU and the luvvers!

Date: 2006-03-20 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
Oh yes, Berg does decent opera too. "Wozzeck" and "Lulu" both pretty good. Sorry, Alban.

Date: 2006-03-20 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
favourite opera experience - seeing aida performed in the ruins of the verona coliseum.

Date: 2006-03-20 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
BY WEEZER!

Date: 2006-03-20 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com
YAWN into my world more like. YAWNING around more like etc etc.

Date: 2006-03-20 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
You're quite right, Spinning Around's position below Can't Get You Out Of My Head is a severe injustice.

Date: 2006-03-20 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
braisedbywolves OTM

That's a pretty good top 10 though, I think I ticked eight of those.

Date: 2006-03-20 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thenipper.livejournal.com
Hey! I knew who Orson were in Kwiz Poptimism! I have even forced myself to listen to their entire album, for professional purposes. It is predictably excruciating.

Date: 2006-03-20 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
watching orson on TOTP -- they do a costello-joe-jackson drop-out talkover, which took me back if nowhere else -- it occurred to me that the pubrock retrograde phase of the "complete reinvention of rock" in the 70s really actually did feel a bit like this, mere dire replication NEVER ENOUGH hence a very fast push forward through a lot of (now-forgotten) posturing ninnies towards the break-to-come --- certainly we seem to hurry past a LOT OF THE SAME and use em up quick

which may mean "better is to come", or else "pubrock first as tragedy now as farce"

(underlying assumption either way = popu is "our" golden-age rock'n'roll i guess) (is pop CYCLIC? call me LORD SUKRUSTOS BETA)

Date: 2006-03-20 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
I sometimes like watching opera. I mostly don't like listening to it.

Date: 2006-03-20 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com
I think I wrote up being dragged to one by my then-girlfriend last June or so, didn't I? Anyway, I absolutely hated it.

Date: 2006-03-20 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
b-but opera is like marvel comics set to music!

(ie the complete essential [---] vols i-x which you must read in one sitting)

(except for wagner who is the complete essential thor vols i-mxm)

Date: 2006-03-20 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com
There's a 20-issues-or-so Thor storyline somewhere like 270-290 I think which is an unbelievably tedious Wagner adaptation. Otherwise I can see no sense in your comparison.

Date: 2006-03-20 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/
i like lots of opera (or its other name: music theatre for the modernistic stuff), too, although that's more like a sukrat matter -- in addtion to Berg: Nono's 'Prometeo' and Bernd Zimmermann 'The Soldiers' almost channels the spirit of Berg, like he carries on from Lulu's unfinished final act.

read this (http://www.newmusicbox.org/article.nmbx?id=4530) article over the weekend - has a cpl of meh anti-poptimist lines but still...might be of interest.

Date: 2006-03-20 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vivalabridgetta.livejournal.com
Pop opera (particularly when picturing totally unsuitable Italian tenors/baritone voices trying songs infamously covered by and in the style of Westlife) really scares me. I have regular "OWWW!!!! MY SENSORY FUNCTIONS!!!!" moments every time Il Divo come on GMTV - are there treatments for this sort of thing?

Date: 2006-03-20 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spittake.livejournal.com
one of my friends is playing a song for Rigoletto right now on the radio and it's awesome!

Date: 2006-03-20 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spittake.livejournal.com
also, I love the City Opera Thrift Shop

Date: 2006-03-20 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedruproject.livejournal.com
Where's On a Night Like This? Pop injustice...

Date: 2006-03-22 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pot80.livejournal.com
Wow, you guys have horrible taste in Kylie!

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