Canon to the left of them
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poptimistsYesterday's Now poll spawned an interesting subthread w/Lex, Cis and Stevem discussing the emergent 'Poptimist canon' coming out of these Now votes, esp. with reference to trip-hop, and the pendulum swing between the Big Hit eurodance singles which get a ton of votes and the lesser-known ones which suddenly get zero votes.
The trip-hop thing doesn't entirely surprise me because there was a point at which EVERYBODY I knew liked Portishead (and then totally forgot about them by the time the second alb came out), but then I'm a good 5 years older than the people who were discussing it and they were quite a student-friendly band in many ways. I have been a little surprised by the shape of the Now winners, because I simply didn't think there was THAT much affection for big 90s dance-pop hits - again this is an age thing, they were so despised by a lot of people I knew at the time.
The weird skew on europop though is simply down to most of the voters not really thinking of Culture Beat, Corona etc as more than one-hit wonders, for whatever reason I think a lot of people aren't motivated to check out other tracks by someone who did a massive dancepop hit they loved.
I remember saying to Mark S in the pub a few weeks back that it'll be interesting to see at what point the canon really starts breaking down, when the nostalgia effect wears off. I'm not totally sure I can articulate what I mean by that though.
Not about NOW Polls:
The Official List Of Things "Teenage Life" By Daz Sampson Has Reminded Tom Of
Pink Floyd - "Another Brick In The Wall Part 2"
Coolio - "Gangsta's Paradise"
ARSE Weapons - "Hey World"
Denim - "It Fell Off The Back Of A Lorry"
It's ONE WEEK to the pop quiz!
The trip-hop thing doesn't entirely surprise me because there was a point at which EVERYBODY I knew liked Portishead (and then totally forgot about them by the time the second alb came out), but then I'm a good 5 years older than the people who were discussing it and they were quite a student-friendly band in many ways. I have been a little surprised by the shape of the Now winners, because I simply didn't think there was THAT much affection for big 90s dance-pop hits - again this is an age thing, they were so despised by a lot of people I knew at the time.
The weird skew on europop though is simply down to most of the voters not really thinking of Culture Beat, Corona etc as more than one-hit wonders, for whatever reason I think a lot of people aren't motivated to check out other tracks by someone who did a massive dancepop hit they loved.
I remember saying to Mark S in the pub a few weeks back that it'll be interesting to see at what point the canon really starts breaking down, when the nostalgia effect wears off. I'm not totally sure I can articulate what I mean by that though.
Not about NOW Polls:
The Official List Of Things "Teenage Life" By Daz Sampson Has Reminded Tom Of
Pink Floyd - "Another Brick In The Wall Part 2"
Coolio - "Gangsta's Paradise"
ARSE Weapons - "Hey World"
Denim - "It Fell Off The Back Of A Lorry"
It's ONE WEEK to the pop quiz!
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Date: 2006-03-09 11:55 am (UTC)I think most of the Europop acts are regarded as one hit wonders with some justice. I mean, I've heard other tracks by Livin' Joy, Culture Beat and Captain Jack - and they are all utterly rub.
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Date: 2006-03-09 11:58 am (UTC)also there's the odd habit of preferring the 'more generic' follow-ups to consider still.
perhaps someone out there prefers 'Baby Baby' to 'Rhythm Of The Night'. there's no real reason why this couldn't happen!
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Date: 2006-03-09 02:16 pm (UTC)One day we will actually get around to having the generic-as-great discussion on poptimists, i swear. (but it is not this day as I have 1x essay to write)
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Date: 2006-03-09 02:29 pm (UTC)oh you DO surprise me ;)
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Date: 2006-03-09 04:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-09 11:59 am (UTC)Yes, I wonder about that too. For me, that would be around 1997/1998, I should think.
But it's all fake nostalgia in my case anyway. In 1993/94 I was listening to Blur, Green Day, Sloan, and Lemonheads. I only heard "The Rhythm of the Night" et al dancing to it in Spanish discos.
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Date: 2006-03-09 12:04 pm (UTC)Teenage Life RemindX0rs
Date: 2006-03-09 12:02 pm (UTC)Hardknock Life - Jay-Z
Gorillarz - Dirty Harry
Happy Talk - Dizze Rascal
Re: Teenage Life RemindX0rs
Date: 2006-03-09 01:20 pm (UTC)Teenage Life is really...
Date: 2006-03-09 12:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-09 12:22 pm (UTC)Is it when people are sure enough about what they think that they don't have to hear it again (even in a "cocking your head to one side and humming it" way) before rendering judgement?
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Date: 2006-03-09 12:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-09 01:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-09 09:24 pm (UTC)and surely it's only a matter of time before
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Date: 2006-03-09 12:55 pm (UTC)have just listened to TL for first time
Date: 2006-03-09 01:46 pm (UTC)still don't know what signing on to the AVY is...
yes, a lot of "where is the love?"
it's good though isn't it?
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Date: 2006-03-09 04:53 pm (UTC)