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katstevens.livejournal.com) wrote in
poptimists2009-11-18 01:36 pm
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In the canteen just now the Miley song was on (and the Miley song was on, and the Miley song was oooooon etc), and it got me thinking...
...Do pop songs intentionally name drop other artists anymore? Did this use to be more of a common occurrence? Obviously this is a big thing in hiphop where shout-outs to your mates (especially dead ones) or ruthless disses are very common. Also, tediously-long lists of dudes who have influenced the artist seem to be mostly confined to dance music (Daft Punk, LCD Soundsystem, Soulwax, er Scooter), though feel free to correct me on that. Does the same thing happen in country or rock at all?
Off the top of my head I can think of the following pop tracks that reference other artists not directly involved in the making of the track:
Miley Cyrus - Party In The USA (Jay-Z and Britney)
Robbie Williams - She's Madonna
Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag (Iron Maiden)
CSS - Meeting Paris Hilton (who is technically a pop star I guess)
There must be more! Who would you say is name-dropped the most? Does it tend to be in the context of Artist 1 actually in the act of listening to Artist 2, like Miley is doing? Or swooning over them, like Robbie?
...Do pop songs intentionally name drop other artists anymore? Did this use to be more of a common occurrence? Obviously this is a big thing in hiphop where shout-outs to your mates (especially dead ones) or ruthless disses are very common. Also, tediously-long lists of dudes who have influenced the artist seem to be mostly confined to dance music (Daft Punk, LCD Soundsystem, Soulwax, er Scooter), though feel free to correct me on that. Does the same thing happen in country or rock at all?
Off the top of my head I can think of the following pop tracks that reference other artists not directly involved in the making of the track:
Miley Cyrus - Party In The USA (Jay-Z and Britney)
Robbie Williams - She's Madonna
Wheatus - Teenage Dirtbag (Iron Maiden)
CSS - Meeting Paris Hilton (who is technically a pop star I guess)
There must be more! Who would you say is name-dropped the most? Does it tend to be in the context of Artist 1 actually in the act of listening to Artist 2, like Miley is doing? Or swooning over them, like Robbie?
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I think the line goes something like "I'm like the Saturdays every day because me and my heart have issues"
Something like that anyway.
It's an awful song, and the Saturdays are awful, but I had to listen to the radio in a friend's car on Sunday and it was on.
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buddy holly by weezer
like dylan in the movies by smell and sebastian
I'D RATHER JACK by the reynolds girls, HOW SOON WE FORGET etc
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i know where syd barret lives by tvps
almost the entire career of HELEN LOVE, partic LONG LIVE THE UK MUSIC SCENE (although that's about the only one that *isn't* about joey ramone)
i think there is a Certain Type Of Indie where this is massively prevelant
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the singer out of slipknot went to rome to see the pope...
inspired by no one, other bands bore us
how can you say we sound like frazier chorus
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something something Beck and HANSON, Courtney Love and Marilyn MANSON
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Oh there was crossness about that in the 6th form believe you me.
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stone temple pilots, they're elegant bachelors
both from Range Life.
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"and so now we're not talking, except we have tickets to see Blur in October and i think were still going"
"Oasis sent a photograph, it's autographed and everything, Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkMnp187K0Y
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when smokey sings!
black man ray!
does Rip It Up count? "and my favourite song's entitled 'boredom'"
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Steely Dan's Everything You Did
"She sang about angels, Kurt Cobain
I thought 'what a shame
It wasn't about Tom Verlaine"
The Go Betweens' She Sang About Angels
David Bowie's Song for Bob Dylan is an obvious one, spinning off Dylan's Song for Woody (Guthrie)
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Current front runners then are Beatles & Rolling Stones, followed by Blur/Oasis/Madonna I think (just remembered Androids' 'Do It With Madonna').
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"Kylie's Got a Crush On Us" by Teenage Fanclub was always a favourite.
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Who would you say is name-dropped the most?
(Frank) Sinatra or Elvis
If we're talking celebs in general, however, the clear winner is Halle Berry - cited in more hip hop records than Jay-Z's bigged himself up in.
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"Fourth of July" by Shooter Jennings contains extensive reference to George Jones
Eminem is his own category. "My Name Is" references Usher, and "The Real Slim Shady" references Fred Durst and Christina Aguilera, off the top of my head.
"We dig Marvel & DC, we dig Run-DMC....
Pop Will Eat Itself did this more than once, IIRC, but "Can U Dig It" is the obvious one. Does "Cicciolina" count - she *has* released music, but I suspect that's not why they name-checked her.
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"Put Sufjan Stevens on ... something something about her favorite song is Chicago!"
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There's a Southern Soul song this year (not sure who does it) that also fits this bill (and btw, current Southern soul songs turn out to namedrop Johnny Taylor and Tyrone Davis like current county songs namedrop Willie and Merle). Wrote this on ILM earlier this year, first time I heard the soul heaven song in question on the radio: "They also played another song that mentioned Johnny Taylor and Tyrone Davis, this one about a lot of singers who'd 'gone home' by dying (tons of soul guys, not all Southern, plus Johnny Cash, Frank Sinatra, Janis Joplin, Tupac, and Biggie Smalls)."
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L.A. told me, "You'll be a pop star,
All you have to change is everything you are."
Tired of being compared to damn Britney Spears
She's so pretty, that just ain't me
Pink "Don't Let Me Get Me"