ext_281244 ([identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] poptimists2007-11-28 10:16 am

"srsly poptimists need 1x CRASH COURSE in contemporary hip-hop"

(That's the Lex speaking)

1. Do we? Or "Do you?" I should say, since we're a loose clumping of individuals innit.

2. GO ON THEN! What's the best hip-hop you've heard this year?

Re: NOW here's a question

[identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
also Lil' Mama is talking about "hos", just not in so many words! (where ho = female one does not like, as opposed to actual prostitute.) And she uses her lip gloss in the same way that older male rappers use guns and drugz ie as a status symbol, something that confers power and superiority on her.

Re: NOW here's a question

[identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Good answer! :)
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Re: NOW here's a question

[personal profile] koganbot 2007-11-28 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Lil Mama is definitely hip-hop; so are the Eve and the Diddy. There are purists who'd argue against those tracks being hip-hop on the basis of their being too much fun, but these people would also argue against crunk and snap being hip-hop in favor of people like Talib Kweli. In any event, when Mariah did her duet with ODB in the early '90s, and TLC came along, that changed the game. Also, if you listen to southern hip-hop you'll here that it's not exactly shunning dancehall and Miami bass and techno and house in its sound. But then, hip-hop from the start was into using any sound it could get its hands on.
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Re: NOW here's a question

[personal profile] koganbot 2007-11-28 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
In other words, in answer to your question, don't be too concerned with dividing hip-hop from r&b or you'll be missing too much of the great action. "What's Luv" from '01 or so was a crucial track, a hug 'n' thug; it was credited to Fat Joe but Ashanti was just as crucial to the sound, and I can't make any sense of trying to divide it into either r&b or hip-hop. The "rhythmic" stations in the U.S. advertise themselves as "hip-hop/r&b."