One thing I find weird is this idea that you've been a lurker here for ages, Dave - this is just not true, you may not have started a thread but you've been a very visible commentator!
Anyway, lots to say and not really any time to say it as I have to go shopping. Poptimists isn't a closed community - but a lot of people don't like LJ and don't want to sign up. This is partly because LJ is coded young and gothy (and female maybe) in a way that's embarassing to some: I've been AMAZED by what an effective screener simply "being on LJ" has proved to be actually in terms of trolls etc (& the name helps). We still have 160-ish members tho, even if most are lurkers.
Being on LJ has other disadvantages too of course - comment threading at 50 and the way old posts just drop off the radar distorts the way ex-ILMers in particular have to do things and I know I've never really adjusted well.
Poptimists was an experiment to see how an LJ pop community could work - rly well in some ways is the answer - and the specific circs of its creation, mid-July 05, very much balanced "seize the day" and "I need comfort". It's also a post-ILM board (in the same way Dissensus is, and the Noize Board is) - positive online energy is nomadic. BUT I also always thought someone ELSE wd be the person to build the next big place I wanted to hang out so Poptimists was kind of meant as a stopgap before that particular Hacienda gets built: meanwhile I am still tapping my watch and waiting for the builders while the stopgap puts down its own roots (hurrah) (metaphor crisis).
Something that really enthuses me about Poptimists is the range of age, experience, enthusiasms we have here & also most of the people in it are younger than me and (it sounds lame pointing it out but it's important, specially compared to ILM) there are lots of women posting, proportionally a lot more than on other music discussion places I've been. So it feels like a much more fertile place than ILM for starting projects, personal or group, and I think my imagined Haciendabuilder is much likelier to come from here than there. (no pressure like).
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Date: 2007-08-26 10:24 am (UTC)Anyway, lots to say and not really any time to say it as I have to go shopping. Poptimists isn't a closed community - but a lot of people don't like LJ and don't want to sign up. This is partly because LJ is coded young and gothy (and female maybe) in a way that's embarassing to some: I've been AMAZED by what an effective screener simply "being on LJ" has proved to be actually in terms of trolls etc (& the name helps). We still have 160-ish members tho, even if most are lurkers.
Being on LJ has other disadvantages too of course - comment threading at 50 and the way old posts just drop off the radar distorts the way ex-ILMers in particular have to do things and I know I've never really adjusted well.
Poptimists was an experiment to see how an LJ pop community could work - rly well in some ways is the answer - and the specific circs of its creation, mid-July 05, very much balanced "seize the day" and "I need comfort". It's also a post-ILM board (in the same way Dissensus is, and the Noize Board is) - positive online energy is nomadic. BUT I also always thought someone ELSE wd be the person to build the next big place I wanted to hang out so Poptimists was kind of meant as a stopgap before that particular Hacienda gets built: meanwhile I am still tapping my watch and waiting for the builders while the stopgap puts down its own roots (hurrah) (metaphor crisis).
Something that really enthuses me about Poptimists is the range of age, experience, enthusiasms we have here & also most of the people in it are younger than me and (it sounds lame pointing it out but it's important, specially compared to ILM) there are lots of women posting, proportionally a lot more than on other music discussion places I've been. So it feels like a much more fertile place than ILM for starting projects, personal or group, and I think my imagined Haciendabuilder is much likelier to come from here than there. (no pressure like).