[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4455862.stm

Brit-hop is coming OMG OMG etc - yeah good work BBC but look at the comparison to Select magazine's "notorious" Britpop cover!!

Did anyone else buy this at the time? (1993) and what did you think?

Also if someone could YSI a few good recent (like last 6-12 months recent) hem hem Brit-hop records I'm sure we'd all be grateful.

Date: 2005-11-21 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
"But if radio stations are not playing British hip-hop, it is because the music is not yet good enough and too few fans want it, Sway believes."

HURRAH someone finally talking sense. Can someone pls forward this to ALL UNSIGNED INDIE BANDS EVAR.

Date: 2005-11-21 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com
give it another week and we'll have [livejournal.com profile] timmypopkins on here, and we won't be able to move for recent Brit-hop releases.

Date: 2005-11-21 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I wish people would just drop the big British/Britishness empthasis, and that includes the rappers themselves. It happened too much with jungle as well and is now really boring, esp. in hip-hop because of the obsession with making it clear they're not trying to copy Americans.

I'm not sure about Lethal B but I like the Sway, Killa Kela and Rolldeep. I'm still not sure how/if they will manage to sell more records, but Wiley's comment that it will take another four years to make real impact is interesting.

Date: 2005-11-21 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chezghost.livejournal.com
oop, that was me btw

Date: 2005-11-21 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Of course I bought it, but then again, I would, wouldn't I?

I also bought the Vanity Fair thing, as well. That, I still have somewhere.

-Kate

Date: 2005-11-21 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
needless to say, i bought that issue of select and, as with all music journalism before the advent of teh interweb I BELIEVED EVERY WORD (except the bit about denim obv.)

Date: 2005-11-21 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=2658&page=1&pp=15

'instinct' tells dance writer simon reynolds that this is all HYPE.

HKM

Date: 2005-11-21 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
instinct = avoids that tiresome "listening to the actual record" nonsense!!

Date: 2005-11-21 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
by the time you're thirty you kind of know what you're gonna like, innit.

hkm

Date: 2005-11-21 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
"from blisspop to dadrock: the music writing of s.reynolds"

(i'm teasin simon!!)

(or AM i?)

Date: 2005-11-21 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i read the original select quite a long time after it was published (i was TWELVE at the time) and it was quite good!

i must've read it after the whole dadrock thing, and i guess it's innaresting that no-one in 1993 was able to predict that humble pie, rather than felt, were going to be the hot band in years hence.

Date: 2005-11-21 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
- HKM

[do people just get gothjournals so they don't have this anon BS?]

THE BI SIDE MORE LIKE

Date: 2005-11-21 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
haha i met up w.some chums from the now-defunct l0nd0n b!sexu4l gr0up on sun -- to sort out some small remaining tedious admin -- and during the chattage discovered that the extended b! community has migrated not only on-line but entirely onto LJ UH OH

Date: 2005-11-21 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
i find the britishness thing a lot more tedious when q does it with people like joss stone, franz ferdinand et al, they always seem to be coming at it from a v dodgy 'look at the way they are making the ECONOMY bigger' angle. whereas with uk hip hop it isn't ideal BUT there is this kind of necessity to distinguish itself from us hip hop. and in the case of someone like sway, who uses his 'britishness' to such great effect in his music, it's pretty ace.

(also the socio-cultural factor of immigrant groups reinterpreting what it is to be british which i approve of)

no ysi-ing from me unfortunately but there were great albums this year from part 2 and baby j; the antourage single out at the start of next year is awesome; baby blue and c-mone are doing really good stuff. not 100% convinced about klashnekoff. still prefer grime though it all seems to be being lumped together anyway.

BBC on Brit-Hop

Date: 2005-11-21 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Here's a theory of that Select cover: it had a lot to do with internal politics. Collins, Maconie and Steve Lamacq, recently arrived as a package deal from the NME, had no particular love for Cypress Hill, who were the office faves of the day. What they shared with boy editor Andrew Harrison is that they weren't really rock fans, and thus had no great love of the wave of sludge that surrounded (rather than followed) Nirvana. The flag-waving followed from that, rather than being the starting point.

Date: 2005-11-22 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thejivesession.livejournal.com
phnlernar DENIM ROXXX

Date: 2005-11-22 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
they were still never going to STORM the world like eg blur or the auteurs though were they, bless ;)

Re: BBC on Brit-Hop

Date: 2005-11-22 10:58 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
what's interesting (?) abt that theory is that collins was one of the authors of the 'union jack-wielding morrissey is a racist' nme cover a year previously.

how dyou mean they arrived as a 'package deal' though?

hkm

Re: BBC on Brit-Hop

Date: 2005-11-22 11:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
They all walked out on the NME when Steve Sutherland was appointed editor and arrived at Select as what at least seemed to be a bloc.

Date: 2005-12-08 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
it's IRONY mother.

also, this feels slightly wrong, commenting on a post from two weeks ago...

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