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Swingin' crooner Frank notched up 31 UK Top 40 hit singles, but which ones are the best of the bunch? You get TEN ticks to decide...

[Poll #1016325]

Donna Canon results up later.
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Date: 2007-07-06 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
I guess this is where the canon methodology falls down...
Well quite. I couldn't get to 10 ticks, and I really like Sinatra. >:(

Date: 2007-07-06 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piratemoggy.livejournal.com
I know about five of these songs but can safely say that I hate ALL OF THEM.

Date: 2007-07-06 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
I wonder what a list of his US Top 40 hits would look like.

Date: 2007-07-06 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcarratala.livejournal.com
Not too long ago, I was listening to the radio and there was Frank doing a live version of Mack The Knife, which might just be the song that has suffered the most from the Robbie/Westlife/wee Ray offa The X Factor assault on the Sinatra (and chums) songbook – I guess you could claim it's the ultimate in Brechtian alienation as the singers don't show any sign of having the first clue about the basic narrative content of the song (as for anything beyond that, well, Westlife might all be big Gramsci freaks, for all we know?). Anyway, even though Frank's version, being live, ended with a long string of shout-outs, I was still struck by the way it had all the bite and menace and power that is missing from all these chumps who reckon if you put on a tux you're halfway there...

Not really a singles artist for me

Date: 2007-07-06 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-russian.livejournal.com
I've got the four classic late-50s Capitol albums and that's enough, movies aside.

I actually find it kind of difficult to remember that he's dead - he was always SO old while I was conscious of him.

Date: 2007-07-06 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-russian.livejournal.com
you'll learn, trust me :)

Not one tick

Date: 2007-07-06 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
I have come to realise that I don't need my pop stars to be good people, but I need them to be better people than Sinatra.

Date: 2007-07-06 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piratemoggy.livejournal.com
But... his voice. And the sound. And everything about that style of music. :(

My Ticks In Full

Date: 2007-07-06 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
I knew only about 3 of these but still ticked 10 as follows:

THREE COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN: Know it, it's OK.
LEARNIN' THE BLUES: Nelson Riddle FTW
WITCHCRAFT: Ooh spooky.
FRENCH FOREIGN LEGION: How can a song called that be bad?
OL' MACDONALD: Assuming it is what I think it is! Farm animal canon pls.
MY BLUE HEAVEN: There was a good issue of Swamp Thing named after this.
EVERYBODY'S TWISTING: Good old Twist.
STRANGERS IN THE NIGHT: Doo-be-doo-be-doo
MY WAY: Daaaaa-da-da-da-da
I WILL DRINK THE WINE: A sentiment we can all endorse.

Re: Not one tick

Date: 2007-07-06 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
Speaking of badness can I assume that the "selling point" in Me And My Shadow with Sammy Davis Jr was EXACTLY WHAT I THINK IT WAS.

Date: 2007-07-06 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com
I don't care so much for that one - the "you give me the boot!" line bugs me.

US Canon

Date: 2007-07-06 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justfanoe.livejournal.com
Check here for US Canon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronological_list_of_singles_and_albums_recorded_by_Frank_Sinatra

I was gonna type it out, but there are too many.

Date: 2007-07-06 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com
Not only one of the all-time great singers, one of the very best American actors ever, for me. I love Sinatra, despite him being a horrible person. I have more tracks by him than almost anyone else, I think. I only dislike the idiotic novelty ones - I have his version of the Woody Woodpecker song, for instance. I love pretty much all the series of albums with Nelson Riddle.

Re: My Ticks In Full

Date: 2007-07-06 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justfanoe.livejournal.com
GREG'S TEN TICKS:

"Young at Heart" - I love it
"Three Coins in the Fountain" - I ticked this song coz I know it and I needed one more to get to ten ticks. As as song it's alright I guess
"Love and Marriage" - ticked coz it was the theme song to Married With Children
"Chicago" - Proxy tick for "New York, New York". Actually, it's still a good song itself.
"Witchcraft" - Genuinely great.
"High Hopes" - Genuinely great.
"Me and My Shadow" - Yeah, really racist. But so ridiculous it merited a tick.
"Strangers in the Night", "My Way" - Yeah, yeah, yeah, classics and they deserve to be!
"Somethin' Stupid" - Love duet ballad sung between a father and daughter! Icky, but nice melody.


Date: 2007-07-06 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justfanoe.livejournal.com
I didn't know this was real ("Woody Woodpecker" theme as sung by Frank Sinatra), I always thought it was just something invented for parody by Saturday Night Live.

Anyways, yeah, he's a great singer, tho this list doesn't capture most of his best.

Date: 2007-07-06 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strange-powers.livejournal.com
I advise anyone with a passing interest in Sinatra to grab a copy of Songs For Swinging Lovers - mostly upbeat swing of the very highest quality, with Nelson Riddle leading the band and Frank on incredible form.

POP BEGINS HERE.

Re: Fillums

Date: 2007-07-06 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
The Man With the Golden Arm
On the Town

I have soft spots for Von Ryan's Express and Robin and the 7 Hoods also.

Re: Fillums

Date: 2007-07-06 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strange-powers.livejournal.com
He's great in On The Town, though the film as a whole is a bit of a mixed bag. The Man With The Golden Arm, From Here to Eternity and Von Ryan's Express are all fine movies.

Date: 2007-07-06 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
Pop for grownups doesn't count.
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