unfortunately i missed this discussion while it was going on so no one will hear me :(
Mentalist: Yes! (see below)
1. There are working scrobbling solutions (at least for iPods, both OS X and Windows) and in fact over the last year or so, I'd say as much as half of my recorded listening represents iPod scrobbles. The only drawback is that if you, say, listen to "Gotta Work" by Amerie 5X, it only scrobbles once (because iPods only register "played" or "not played."
2. Recommendations. First of all, really only useful if you use the radio function (which I do). Second, last.fm's recommendations are fairly pointless to anyone with significant musical knowledge - they're based on common denominators, and therefore they're "low" - although if you push the slider over to "more obscure," sometimes you'll get interesting stuff. But where they CAN be useful is when they're a) recommendations from friends (or to groups) and b) for specific songs, rather than just groups overall. However, part of the problem for poptimists in this respect is that most of us are (ahem) "early adopters," meaning that it will be fairly unusual that you can hear something new on last.fm that we haven't heard already.
3. Canons. The problem with this is that last.fm charts are weighted towards the songs that they can stream, so the last.fm top 30 approach may not always work.
One of the ways I am mental, I've noticed of late, is actually my effort to "balance" my charts more - e.g. Split Enz and Saint Etienne, while among my favorite bands, chart high because for both artists I have more or less their full discography on my computer and therefore they get shuffled up disproportionately often. So I find myself trying to listen to things I haven't played, or haven't played recently, to try and shift my profile more towards my tastes than my collection (although I agree with freakytigger thatmy profile is probably fairly representative. As you might guess, I want *everything* scrobbled (conversely if I, say, fall asleep while something is playing, I may go back in my profile and delete things I didn't actually listen to/hear).
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Date: 2007-06-27 07:40 am (UTC)Mentalist: Yes! (see below)
1. There are working scrobbling solutions (at least for iPods, both OS X and Windows) and in fact over the last year or so, I'd say as much as half of my recorded listening represents iPod scrobbles. The only drawback is that if you, say, listen to "Gotta Work" by Amerie 5X, it only scrobbles once (because iPods only register "played" or "not played."
2. Recommendations. First of all, really only useful if you use the radio function (which I do). Second, last.fm's recommendations are fairly pointless to anyone with significant musical knowledge - they're based on common denominators, and therefore they're "low" - although if you push the slider over to "more obscure," sometimes you'll get interesting stuff. But where they CAN be useful is when they're a) recommendations from friends (or to groups) and b) for specific songs, rather than just groups overall. However, part of the problem for poptimists in this respect is that most of us are (ahem) "early adopters," meaning that it will be fairly unusual that you can hear something new on last.fm that we haven't heard already.
3. Canons. The problem with this is that last.fm charts are weighted towards the songs that they can stream, so the last.fm top 30 approach may not always work.
One of the ways I am mental, I've noticed of late, is actually my effort to "balance" my charts more - e.g. Split Enz and Saint Etienne, while among my favorite bands, chart high because for both artists I have more or less their full discography on my computer and therefore they get shuffled up disproportionately often. So I find myself trying to listen to things I haven't played, or haven't played recently, to try and shift my profile more towards my tastes than my collection (although I agree with