yes, it's true that appreciation of high-quality writing is by no means a key to netroots membership! kos is largely an info dump, dealing w.info not easily available elsewhere (and certainly not gathered into one place) -- a bit liek the way listings used to be the gathering pretext for the inkies
i think the communities gather round the various specific net-pundits i mentioned do so for more writerly-readerly reasons (ie analysis, and the generation of arguments-as-weapons): including critique of cliched arguments and the analysis of what's structurally wrong with other forms of media (how it produces bad politics)
essentially what i'm interested in i guess what how broader communities can motivate and shape themselves -- in that sense i think there is a structure well worth looking at, not least bcz its (self-inflating) success is recent, very much bound into the nature of the available technology, and a harbinger of changes in the funding of extant media
as to the last bit, the material technicalia of producing music (and the whole question of IP generally) is something that ought to be built somewhere into music analysis from the off, so i am VERY keen to see if a structure could be fashioned like this, where the relationship was just a click away and updates in the central info-spine generated discussion and analysis
(i TOTALLY take the point abt political assholery: but frank's central commitment is that eg thoughtful new yorkerish belle lettrism, by cutting itself off structurally from schoolyard jerkishness a la meltzer, is doing itself a disservice as regards CONTENT, and the style suffers too -- so i think firewalls are in principle ruled out -- there's a fair variation in the content-quality of the comments threads to the pundit-sites) (some are routinely so primitive i don't even bother; others have regulars who i think are worth reading and create zones of genuine debate)
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Re: Netroots
Date: 2007-05-02 03:06 pm (UTC)i think the communities gather round the various specific net-pundits i mentioned do so for more writerly-readerly reasons (ie analysis, and the generation of arguments-as-weapons): including critique of cliched arguments and the analysis of what's structurally wrong with other forms of media (how it produces bad politics)
essentially what i'm interested in i guess what how broader communities can motivate and shape themselves -- in that sense i think there is a structure well worth looking at, not least bcz its (self-inflating) success is recent, very much bound into the nature of the available technology, and a harbinger of changes in the funding of extant media
as to the last bit, the material technicalia of producing music (and the whole question of IP generally) is something that ought to be built somewhere into music analysis from the off, so i am VERY keen to see if a structure could be fashioned like this, where the relationship was just a click away and updates in the central info-spine generated discussion and analysis
(i TOTALLY take the point abt political assholery: but frank's central commitment is that eg thoughtful new yorkerish belle lettrism, by cutting itself off structurally from schoolyard jerkishness a la meltzer, is doing itself a disservice as regards CONTENT, and the style suffers too -- so i think firewalls are in principle ruled out -- there's a fair variation in the content-quality of the comments threads to the pundit-sites) (some are routinely so primitive i don't even bother; others have regulars who i think are worth reading and create zones of genuine debate)