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Here's what [livejournal.com profile] braisedbywolves had to say. First off, a quick reminder to get your tracks in for this week! I will be sending out individual reminders tomorrow hopefully. Revelations at about 3-3.30 probably.

Over to Braised:

"I didn't really get much "OMG OMG What is this?" off anything here, though I'd definitely be up for more of 1st to 4th place. I'm not sure that I really made the best intoduction, there was at least one glaring omission (noted below), and I can see where I should have put "but only if it's good" at the end of some of my enthusiasms (or rather been more specific about what was good in them). Anyway, points for you lot:

01. Q and not U - "Wonderful People": Plinky post-punk guitars, silly falsetto, normal voice actually not so great, reaches for 'funk' a bit too much. I'll be amazed if I haven't heard this band before. 10th Place - LOSE - [livejournal.com profile] katstevens dragged back into relegation fight.

02. NIOWT - "City": It's Rihanna! No, it's some eastern-european-sounding lady (it took me some time to realise that she's actually singing in English), 'spooky' piano motif, general rattling swarm of semi-d'n'b high snares and guitars, and occasional boshing. I really like the kitchen-sinkness of it, but on the bits where she really kicks it up a notch, the rest of the track doesn't entirely rise to the occasion. 2nd Place - WIN - [livejournal.com profile] bengraham's busy squad wraps up bold victory.

03. Jeff Mills - "Step To Enchantment": Buh? The one glaring omission from my description (which might have given the people who actually know me an advantage) was Stuff What Boshes, but this just doesn't really go anywhere, for three and a half minutes. It's like someone had decided to make a dance remix of a microhouse track. Get 1x breaks! 11th Place - LOSE - [livejournal.com profile] dubdobdee gets his team selection badly wrong.

04. The Butterflies Of Love - "Take Action": Alt-country stuff here (my own fault, I should have made a list of what I didn't like as well), not bad slide into harmonies on the chorus. 8th Place - LOSE - [livejournal.com profile] strange_powers slips to first defeat of the season.

05. Number One Cup - "The Monkey Song": This starts off sounding like someone's specifically seized on the Weakerthans ref, which would be awesome. Short, exciting, xylophone solo! Lyrics aren't going to be scrawled on anyone's schoolbag, mind. 4th Place - WIN - a scrappy win for [livejournal.com profile] jel_bugle

06. Band Of Susans - "Ice Age": Oh, lovely proper indie! I not entirely sure I like this stuff any more. But I do love it. The longest track by a mile, lots of room for the guitars to stretch out. Not that I approve of that sort of thing, no no no (yes). 5th Place - WIN - [livejournal.com profile] xyzzzz_ stays in touch with the leaders after dogged win.

07. Fannypack - "Keep It Up": Ah, syncopation. Lots of stuff thrown in because it makes the track sound better, crowd noise (which should definitely been one of my five), tough girl-rapping over it, and a great breakdown. [livejournal.com profile] alexmacpherson, I suspect. 1st Place - WIN - dominant [livejournal.com profile] inhibitorylinks goes clear at top of table.

08. Mellowdrone - "Fashionable Uninvited": Hmm, this is some of the modern non-trendy sweeping indie, isn't it? I'd almost guess Keane if it weren't for the guitar. Maybe Muse, maybe a half dozen other bands I can't think of. I still like it more than I should, though points off for "this lovely song". 7th Place - LOSE - four defeats on the bounce leave [livejournal.com profile] fugitivemotel fans muttering.

09. Fiona Apple - "Get Him Back": It's the cockney PJ Harvey! I'm not entirely immune to it, it reminds me of some Michelle Shocked that I love, but the backing kind of throws me. Also I have now decided to compare it to Lush's Ladykillers, which does it no favours. 9th Place - LOSE - [livejournal.com profile] alexmacpherson's season blighted by inconsistency.

10. Lake And Cormega ft Greg Nice - "Don't Start": Like clever lyrics + not allergic to the hiphop = must like clever diss records, right? Right! This might actually have placed a spot or two higher if it was shorter, not much of crucial interest after the two-minute mark. 3rd Place - WIN - [livejournal.com profile] zenith's title challenge picks up steam.

11. Nina And Frederick - "Listen to the Ocean": Quite nice ancient track of the kind that you only ever heard ripped apart for samples these days, a nice low-key ender. This is quite separate from anything that I'd generally enjoy, it would probably score lower if there was a bumper crop of stuff in my comfort zone. 6th Place - DRAW - precious point moves [livejournal.com profile] hauntedballroom off foot of table.
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Date: 2007-04-18 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenith.livejournal.com
not much of crucial interest after the two-minute mark

I see what you mean, but you have to hold out for the classic "ending the song on the sound of gunshots which cut off what someone is saying" gimmick!

Date: 2007-04-18 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
Haha, a lose for me, but never mind because I love the song and it's been going round in my head most of the week.

Date: 2007-04-18 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I dunno which is mine! But, I'm sure I've lost! It was a Mountains Goat cover!

jel

Date: 2007-04-18 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com
Oh bugger, that was probably #5. Dissing lyrics written by my favourite lyric-writer there, marvellous.

Date: 2007-04-18 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bengraham.livejournal.com
Another win for me (track 2). And I'm really impressed that you worked out that it's Eastern European even though she sings in English. They're actually a Slovenian band.

If it had been me...

Date: 2007-04-18 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com
I thought from Andrew's list of five fave things that our tastes didn't overlap much, so I wasn't expecting much from this bunch - and so it proved for the most part.

#7, #9, #11 stood out a mile as easy winners. Assuming #7 is not brand new, I wish I had heard it six months ago. If so, I probably wouldn't have rated "Get'cha Head In The Game" from HSM, which does the same basketball-FX-sample thing, quite so highly as I did at the time.

Not sure what else would get a win from me. (I wasn't at all keen on the rap track at #10, oddly.) I quite enjoyed the goth, flanged guitars of #6, simply because it's been so long since I've heard anything like it and the chords reminded me a bit of Alex Lifeson in Rush's 80s heyday.

Either #1 or #2 might scrape the final spot - most likely #1 although you can just tell the band are desperate for the DFA to notice them and remix them.

Re: If it had been me...

Date: 2007-04-18 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
I've only been able to work out which mine was from everyone else's comment, which is kind of "buhhhh????"

Oh well it was between that and a few others and I'm not sure the others would have fared much better.

Re: If it had been me...

Date: 2007-04-18 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
I picked it on the basis of "clever lyrics" but should have realised that I don't like any of the lyricists Andrew does.

My thoughts

Date: 2007-04-18 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bengraham.livejournal.com
My thoughts:

Track 1 - Quite like this, apart from the bits where it goes a bit Scissor Sisters. WIN
Track 3 - Bosh, but boring bosh. LOSE
Track 4 - Alt-country... I like the backing vocals, but the song is a bit dreary. DRAW
Track 5 - Hehehe monkey in the basement, how did the monkey get there? Grebt. WIN
Track 6 - Dull nindie. Not my thing at all. LOSE
Track 7 - Sounds a bit like a brattish group of MIA clones, chorus doesn't really burst into life. DRAW
Track 8 - More interesting nindie. Perhaps something like Hope Of The States? WIN
Track 9 - PJ Harvey, as Andrew said! Failed to make much impression on me. LOSE
Track 10 - Slower rap, not a particularly impressive MC style. LOSE
Track 11 - Similar sort of style to the German war-song that [livejournal.com profile] dubdobdee submitted for my week. But this is a bit more playful, a bit more Lemon Jelly. I like this. WIN

Re: If it had been me...

Date: 2007-04-18 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
I wonder whether all the people comparing it to PJ Harvey atually possess ears though.

DO NOT WANT

Date: 2007-04-18 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strange-powers.livejournal.com
Oh craps! I lose for the first time.

Date: 2007-04-18 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-russian.livejournal.com
What does "relegation" mean in Pop Premiership terms, I wonder?

Re: If it had been me...

Date: 2007-04-18 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
I doubt #1 are desperate for a remix - they split up in 2005.

Date: 2007-04-18 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
Perhaps I will have to sit out the next season. To be honest, my music research skillX0r aren't brilliant compared to other poptimists (half of my submissions have been fairly lazy choices), so I probably deserve my placing!

Date: 2007-04-18 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byebyepride.livejournal.com
Track 7 is an odd choice from an album full of genius, but I know and love it already. I'm always surprised when other people haven't heard this act! A worthy winner.

Very 'meh' about everything else here. I quite like 10 -- sounds like a Wu Tang offshoot.

Date: 2007-04-18 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bengraham.livejournal.com
Surely it means you'd drop down to the Chart Championship for next season!!

Date: 2007-04-18 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justfanoe.livejournal.com
There is none of this "shifting of conferences" or "last place penalties" in American sports. In most American sports, you actually get REWARDED for getting in last, as it gives you first crack at the promising young amateurs (from high school and college) via the amateur draft. Socialism!

Date: 2007-04-18 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piratemoggy.livejournal.com
So as long as I've still got a stadium I can stay in the league? :D

Date: 2007-04-18 02:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Only heard once, just now, lots of pleasing new stuff, gotta type fast; TRACK SEVEN was on my album of the year for 2005 but it's one of my least favorite songs on it so I'm not sure it would get the draw. "Get off like a wedding gown" is one among many many great lines these girls (or the two guys who probably write most of their lyrics) come up with. If my votes actually counted I'd likely give it a win or draw but since not I'll leave the spot open for someone else.

Winners
--TRACK TWO: Gentle achy pop song w/ d'n'b'ish accoutrements pasted underneath, then noise breaks, then explorations leaving the song behind, which may be unfortunate 'cause I like the song, but deserves respect for its restlessness.
--TRACK TEN: Soul bass and rappers threatening murder. Crunkish content but the sound seems more northern. Gets to me.
--TRACK ONE: Funky w/ a voice halfway between glam and funk, which must mean it's British; so, vocals emotionally inexpressive but signify a nice swish. An unexpectedly meditative break that doesnt' lose the beat. Doesn't galvanize me, but nice.
--TRACK THREE: Functional darkly blippy electronic dance track.
--TRACK NINE: Strong-voiced pretentious full-of-shit debutante toughie; Fiona Apple type, faux circus cabaret. Not lacking in force.

Draw
TRACK FOUR: Alt something but not quite folky or country, has singer and lyrics that You Pay Attention To, but I'm managing not to. Nice ahs in the background turn me around to liking this, as does synth-orchestral break.

Leave others for my next post, most of 'em finishing in an enjoyable pack; this week is giving me an insight into how, for both better and worse, bohemian semipopular music is unsure of itself yet using the unsureness to go exploring.

Date: 2007-04-18 02:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Correction, couldn't give TRACK SEVEN a win since I've heard it, but it would likely have gotten a draw, I meant.

Date: 2007-04-18 02:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
And the losers are...

(well, they're pretty interesting)

--TRACK ELEVEN: What the fuck? Roy Rogers and Dale Evans on a Hawaiian cruise that accidentally ends up in the Caribbean. I can't tell if this is neo or genuinely old. Also have no idea yet how good I'll think this is. (Like, last week's Utada song I had down in seventh place then couldn't stop playing it. Don't think this'll end up good as that, but you never know.)
--TRACK EIGHT: Attenuated, unhappy vocals that are strained when not being anorexic; I thought I was disliking this but then the whole thing builds into power.
--TRACK SIX: Slow, thick grinding guitar; the appeal seems very facile but I seem to be the one this appeals to, and it has greater cumulative impact as the track progresses.
--TRACK FIVE: This is what Andrew gets for saying he likes the Mountain Goats! Tune is good, lyrics ("Cool air falls through Venetian blinds") could be about something, singing is dull and dorky though not irritatingly so.

Date: 2007-04-18 02:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
But getting high draft picks means that you have to give the rookie star a ridiculous signing bonus, and since you're probably a losing team owing to your bad personnel decisions, this ends up costing you dearly, as by midseason you realize that the player is a drug addict, and you could have put the money to better use.

Date: 2007-04-18 02:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
It was the Eastern European accent that gave it away.
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