Jop Tournament Qualifiers 7

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

The penultimate qualifying groups - not much more to say other than go and vote in them!

Winners of the fifth batch include: Eminem's "Real Slim Shady" in the closest qualifying group ever (top vote - 15, bottom vote - 12); Kelis trouncing the opposition; "Vogue" squeaking past Chic, and the Spice Girls enjoying a late surge to take them past Gwen and Portishead.


[Poll #913748]


Tomorrow's final groups include three Jop poll winners, erm and some other stuff.

Comments

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Group Y: Like but not adore on all four, Kanye gets it cos I was listening to that track last night. May switch.

Group Z: Very uninspiring - not a big fan of "Time After Time" but it gets the tick here.

Group ALPHA: Four great tracks but "One More Time" is one of my top 5 ever, so yeah.

Group BETA: Prince track vs Prince-written track. "Corvette" gets it.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Z is the hardest group yet!!!!

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

White Stripes or Cyndi Lauper, right? ;)

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Man I was TOTALLY torn between MIA and Stardust. I went for MIA in the end because I thought that ppl would vote for Stardust anyway. But NOES I think I might have to change my vote, Stardust is better... BUT IS IT Argh.

Also tricky: Missy vs Dre&Tupac. Missy gets it for the "BEEP BEEP, WHO GOT THE KEYS TO THE JEEP? BRRRRRRRRM".

Botherd about the rest.

[http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/]

"I went for MIA in the end because I thought that ppl would vote for Stardust anyway."

Yes, going for the 'underdog' (against what I preceive the poptimist mass will go for) is something I happen to be doing at times (it happened with Portishead yesterday, but not this time).

Adventures In Editorial

[koganbot]

Only three s's in Kris Kross. (I know this 'cause I originally got it wrong in my book.)

Re: Adventures In Editorial

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I remember having a MASSIVE argument with this girl in primary school over this - we both had Kris(s) Kross written on our pencilcases, hers was spelt wrong, I pointed it out. I WON by bringing in my copy of Smash Hits the next day to prove it.

Re: Adventures In Editorial

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Is anyone else marvelling at a mental image of Young Lex with his coat on back-to-front?

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

Y: Grace v Kanye GAAHHH!!!!! No way I can actively choose - was leaning towards Kanye for "Serena Trina Jennifer Lopez" but Grace is more the underdog. May well switch allegiance though I'd be happy with anything here going through, there are no evils.

Z: GAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! MIA v Stardust v Cyndi! Narrowed down to MIA and Cyndi even if "music sounds better with you" is the most romantic phrase I have ever heard in a pop song ever; going with MIA because 'Time After Time' has never been the soundtrack to an entire summer. If the White Stripes look at all like winning at any point I WILL switch.

Alpha: GAAAAHHHHH!!!!! Oh man these are all really really sodding hard. Pac v Missy? Pac v Missy? That piano versus that...everything? Everything beats piano, also Missy is funnier, also BEEP BEEP, who got the keys to my JEEP? Vrrrooommmm.

Beta: Thank the lord for an easy one. Gorgeous lovely 'Little Red Corvette'. Franz Ferdinand - get the fuck outta here bitches.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I'm really ph34ring for Beta, looks like a nailbiter.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

This is as it should be, except the WRONG SONG is lagging behind :(

(quite impressed with staying power of 'Jump'! I thought it would have been forgotten by most, but obv not.)

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

why forgotten? it is a timeless wonder

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

A timeless what?

I have to see these votes as "I will always vote for hip-hop over anything else" votes.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I can't imagine hip-hop purists waving too much of a flag for ver Kross.

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

I can't imagine any other reason to vote for it. -ugh-

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Nostalgia?

Monster pop-tune-ness?

Fashion appreciation?

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

mainly the second one for me

'little red corvette' is a great song but not one of my favourite Princ singles oddly.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I think it is my real actual Favourite Prince Single, at least at the moment. But despite this I would be oddly cheered by a victory for the twisted-pants duo, it would prove something, somehow.

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

thinking about 'Little Red Corvette' as a title has got me wondering about using brand names in song titles. i'd like to talk about this more (probably on ILX). i wonder if it'd be something interesting for the radio show too.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

No talk about it here or on FT!

It's an interesting topic.

suggested method

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

1) think of and list songs with brands in the title
2) try and find the earliest examples of the phenomenon in the process
3) focus on the sillier or more unusual examples (if taking it to radio)
4) draw conclusions (how/when is it good/bad etc.)
5) do a poll to see which ones were most successful or are best as songs (poptimists only)

Cadillacs not on 22s, or the radio

[koganbot]

Back in '55, BBC wouldn't play Chuck Berry's "Maybellene" 'cause the mention of a Cadillac and a V-8 Ford violated BBC's no-endorsements policy, hence a delay in the triumph of rock 'n' roll in Britain.

Re: Cadillacs not on 22s, or the radio

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

that's the kind of thing i'm interested in, partly because presumably at that point the idea of mentioning the brand in the title hadn't come through yet?

it's as if mentioning a brand in your verses is more acceptable than putting it in the title. the more i think about it the more i wonder if Prince really pushed something through there (there could be so many earlier instances tho, i just can't think of them at the mo).

it never occurred to me that Corvette had a previous association tho (again just because I never thought about it and hadn't come across the word in any other context other than a type of American sports car) as a type of boat. so song titles featuring an ORIGINAL brand name would perhaps be even more interesting to look at and focus on.

Re: Cadillacs not on 22s, or the radio

[koganbot]

Early '60s there were a whole series of cars and motorbikes in music (including the Storey Sisters great, generic "Bad Motorcycle," with the great line "He's a bad motorcycle," i.e., a good-bad sexy boy who rides a motorcycle), Hondas and Cobras and GTOs making it into song titles. I doubt that there were any endorsement deals or payoffs, since the records were piggybacking on the youth popularity of the automobiles rather than vice versa (or a symbiosis, anyway).

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I wish there were more of those votes around! The only possible voter who might fit that criterion is me and I didn't tick it.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

(Lex check yr gmail!)

i will always vote for krs krs over anything else

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i am actually a bit of a kneejerk hiphop voter PROVIDED THERE IS NO AWESOME POPMETAL nearby

Re: i will always vote for krs krs over anything else

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

that's excellent! because there NEVER IS

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

BETA is the only group so far to which my reaction is "bothered". I ticked ver Kross in the end, but with no real enthusiasm.

Never seen the appeal of Little Red Corvette. In melodic/hookiness terms, it's rubbish.

[cis.livejournal.com]

both Z and ALPHA were so so so hard! I still may end up changing my mind again on them.

Interesting...

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

There's more people not voting in all the polls this time - Y is already 2 down on any of the others.

Re: Interesting...

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

i just couldn't do it :-(

20ish vote outlook

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Y: No idea which way this is going to go.

Z: Stardust not polling as well as I'd expect yet - Cyndi could surge given how well this did in its Now poll.

Alph: Looks like clear win for Missy.

Bet: God knows! If I had to guess I'd say the Franz fans won't be as torn as others here, so they might get through.

Re: 20ish vote outlook

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

The "boredom" factor hurting Stardust, I have to imagine.

Good logic on the Franz fans. I really wanted to vote for it (same logic as GnR, ie, too many riffs too ignore) but I couldn't do it.

[justfanoe.livejournal.com]

Group Y - Like but not love all 4. "BOB" gets my tick here

Group Z - Came down to "Time After Time" v. White Stripes and, apologies to Lex, but I went with the Stripes. Very catchy and with a nice guitar and just seems to be more original and rare than "Time After Time"

Group ALPHA - Voted Daft Punk. Another like but not love group that features a mid tier Daft Punk single and a mid tier Missy single along with some good mid 90s rap. Meh.

Group BETA - The hardest group yet, I think. I seriously deliberated for ticking all 4 of these choices. All 10/10 songs, eek. I voted for "Little Red Corvette", one of my favorite (maybe my favorite) Prince singles

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

Dr Dre and Tupac - California Love
4 (16.0%)

Missy Elliott - The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)
11 (44.0%)

WAHT

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

And since you posted that, no more votes for Missy!