Date: 2006-08-07 03:05 pm (UTC)
to be fair, i think this has evolved along with the emo-isation of indie

[livejournal.com profile] thebopkids esp.will (rightly) note existence of a actual real live danbcing till dawn community who believed that what constituted indie in (say) 1984 was the same as and would again soon be pop's idea of pop

and [livejournal.com profile] koganbot will (rightly) note that modern pop exists because of the eruption into the mainstream of of all manner of small-label R&B (50s defn)
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