POPFITES! 13, 14, 15 and 16!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Because I was too busy to do a POPFITE yesterday you get FOUR clashes today, to finish off the first round. In previous fites JARVIS won a convincing victory over CHRIS LOWE, and MICK JAGGER won out against HANK WILLIAMS.

As for today's fights, words cannot do them justice (i.e. I am starving and need to upload this and go get a sammich).


[Poll #780065]


TICK POWER!

Comments

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Missy is way too "critically acclaimed" to be a pop star.

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Also, Britney v Freddie = one of the toughest ones yet!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Yes, two giants of pop there.

I think Missy is a natural pop star, whose critical acclaim fails to detract from this.

[miss-newham.livejournal.com]

She looks like a pop star though!

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

I don't deny she is a pop star, but I think she would lose out to other pop stars who are more (for the want of a better word) vacuous, because their popness is such that it doesn't NEED critical acclaim etc!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

What is poor Britney doing losing to terribel ghastly unlistenable Queen?!?!?!

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

This might be a better argument if she were against anyone other than MJ, whose Off The Wall is the only record that several amazonian tribes own.

[zenith.livejournal.com]

I am abstaining from the last one because I genuinely cannot choose between them - very similar pros and cons...

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

What is poor Johnny doing losing to terrible ghastly unlistenable Kate Bush?

This smacks of Rockism!

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

I voted with my conscience - Freddie being dead and all - but I too am surprised to see her way behind Freddie while the King Of Pop is TIED with Missy Elliot. That is absolutely ridiculous.

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

How can you call someone who (successfully!) hides from the press during five to ten year breaks between albums a pop star?!? I mean, I love Kate and all, but...

Re: This smacks of Rockism!

[lockedintheatti.livejournal.com]

I can't stand him. Never have. I like some of his records, but MJ as a popstar I've never got. There's always been something too creepy and weird about him. Missy has been a star since day one.

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

Those amazonian tribes are far more likely to own Dangerous or Bad than Off the Wall, my friend.

Re: This smacks of Rockism!

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

Like or Not Like is different from who is the better pop star. I'm not saying I prefer MJ, or that he's not creepy (now). But as a pop star, there is no comparison.

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

No no! Because the village elder heard in NME/Mojo/any-medium-of-the-last-30-years that Off The Wall was the album to get. So they saved their sticks and beads for that one.

Or to actually make my point clearly, like I should have at the start: I think there are few albums with such unaninimous and total cachet as OTW.

Re: This smacks of Rockism!

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I think he's a bad pop star - he's an amazing celebrity/freak/figure of awe but that's something beyond 'being a pop star'. MJ had a few amazing years but since the release of Dangerous he's been no more a pop star than T.Yorke is.

Serge vs. Neneh

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

Some of these fites are too difficult: I really have no personal experience of Gainsbourg (and I'm definitely older than a lot of people here). Neneh's profile is certainly higher than her career was long, but I still find it surprising that she's beating ANYONE.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I try not to use these kind of arguments, but I think failing to get why Freddie Mercury is a great pop star betrays a basic failure to understand pop on any gut level.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I understand why he is but I just can't stand his music.

I think this is not as bad as the Ciara travesty! Loving the Killers more than Ciara is a very very very fundamental example of "not getting pop".

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

hardest choice for me too! in the end kate is way too indie.

Re: Serge vs. Neneh

[braisedbywolves.livejournal.com]

By dubdobdee's laziness criteria: I can remember two Neneh Cherry songs (one of them FANTASTIC) and no Gainsbourg, so easy win.

[blue-russian.livejournal.com]

Umm... no.

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

but lex thinking that that is the case is a given

Re: Serge vs. Neneh

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I think Serge is plainly a way, way better pop star than Neneh - it was the easiest of the four fites for me.

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I don't know how much more clear-cut it gets though. Ciara = a popstar singing pop. Killers = an indie band 'singing' indie.