[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] poptimists
A qn for the oldsters and archivists:

I have - or had - a 12" by a band called The Room, called "Jackpot Jack". I have no idea when it is from - soundwise 83 or so, it sounds heavily Bunnymen-indebted. The chorus goes

You pulled the lever back
You hit the Jackpot, Jack
And all the radios
Are blaring new pop cack


I was reminded of this cos i) it suggests the "new pop" meme was more widespread than just the NME (or, OK, more likely that The Room were big NME readers), ii) it suggests that "new pop" was not immune from people hating it.

How many people hated it at the time? What did they say about it? What did they think people should be listening to instead?

Date: 2006-06-07 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
BARNEY HOSKYNS reacted against it -- as did the BIRTHDAY PARTY, just arrived in the UK and disgusted by everything (inc.a lot of HOSKYNS-ish rockism like the bunnymen) -- BHd wrote his mentalist PLEASUREHEADS MUST BURN pro-rock piece, which is the nietzschean ur-text for reynoldsian blissedoutism

THE S*W*P faction reacted against it -- x.moore of the redskins, attila the stockbroker ect ect -- and did much DENOUNCING of people who drank out of pint glass with handles etc

Date: 2006-06-07 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com
important thing to remember about morley = he is NOT FRIGHTENED OF "NAFFNESS"

Date: 2006-06-07 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The Room (partially) turned into Benny Profane, who may have grazed the outer edges of your life at some point a few years later, Tom. I recall they (The Room) had a few good singles, "New Dreams For Old" in particular is a kind of midpoint between new pop and anthemic indie. OK, OK I like it for nostalgic reasons mostly, but THOSE ARE REASONS TOO.

There were plenty of PUNKERS and GOFFS (probably still protogoths ath this stage) and PSYCHOBILLIES and SUCHLIKE around who thought new pop was rub, obv. Also musos.

I don't recall talking about "new pop" in '82 or whatever, even though I read the NME (in truth, I probably ignored most of the commentary stuff and got on with reading the Clare Grogan and JoBoxers interviews). I was 12, it was just pop.

Date: 2006-06-07 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-newham.livejournal.com
Thank you - last night I dreamed that Paul Morley had died, and now I realise that it didn't really happen!

Date: 2006-06-07 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thenipper.livejournal.com
I remember THE LONE GROOVER (or whatever he was called) + Ray Lowry - ie the two cartoons in NME around that the time - being incredibly anti-New Pop - which they characterised as all tossers in zoot suits drinking cocktails.

Date: 2006-06-08 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com
um, like METAL, obv...

interesting to see joe elliott from out of def leppard claiming "there's always been a pop elephant to our music" in today's graun (http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1792603,00.html)

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