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New Pop
If you haven't voted in the Poptimists demographic survey, please do!
It makes interesting reading (FOR ME!) so far - we have a couple of years clearly in front as far as pan-generational excitement goes, and the agegroup distribution patterns are intriguing too - more detail on all this when I've got more votes in. The agegroup distribution is shaping up as expected - the majority of Poptimists (about 2/3) are in their twenties, with a handful under and a chunk over.
Something which does interest me in terms of the results - very few votes so far* for the early 80s, 80-83, the years of New Pop. New Pop has been repeatedly invoked - often by people who wouldn't consider themselves 'poptimists' I grant you - as a kind of pop ideal. Certainly as far as this - hugely unrepresentative - community goes, though, the number of people who remember it as exciting is dwindling. To recall New Pop as a critical moment you need to be 35 or more, I'd guess - even to remember it clearly as a pop moment you'd need to have hit 30. At some point New Pop is going to shift from being a beacon of inspiration to a stick to beat the kids with - perhaps that point has already passed...?
*(it's v.unscientific of me to mention this as there may now be a spike).
It makes interesting reading (FOR ME!) so far - we have a couple of years clearly in front as far as pan-generational excitement goes, and the agegroup distribution patterns are intriguing too - more detail on all this when I've got more votes in. The agegroup distribution is shaping up as expected - the majority of Poptimists (about 2/3) are in their twenties, with a handful under and a chunk over.
Something which does interest me in terms of the results - very few votes so far* for the early 80s, 80-83, the years of New Pop. New Pop has been repeatedly invoked - often by people who wouldn't consider themselves 'poptimists' I grant you - as a kind of pop ideal. Certainly as far as this - hugely unrepresentative - community goes, though, the number of people who remember it as exciting is dwindling. To recall New Pop as a critical moment you need to be 35 or more, I'd guess - even to remember it clearly as a pop moment you'd need to have hit 30. At some point New Pop is going to shift from being a beacon of inspiration to a stick to beat the kids with - perhaps that point has already passed...?
*(it's v.unscientific of me to mention this as there may now be a spike).
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I like New Pop well enough I suppose, but I think of it as simultaneously being pop and not-pop, it's somehow disqualified from being er 'real pop'. I don't know whether this is because I was born in the early eighties so it had already passed into a series of canons before I could start thinking about it? The first time I came across ABC, Culture Club, etc was in the pages on Q magazine, after all. It's kind of... acceptable, credible, in a way that e.g. the Bay City Rollers or whatever aren't.
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Baxendale, Xenomania etc etcno subject
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Cis has NEVER HEARD belvedere kane - tom plz rectify, i cannot find it.
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THINGS I HAV SEEN:
Fosca demos from like 1997 in which they are inexplicably DADROCK
Every Sexus & Plastic Fantastic single in the Cowley Road Oxfam, about two months ago (also complete Rialto which all versions of every single XD)
Actual romo fanzines!
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you totally put the Rialto singles in Cowley Road Oxfam, you were like 'actually I don't need these second and third copies, maybe I should free them so some eager young thing can discover and THRILL to the delights', weren't you, admit it.
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