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poptimiststhe lex just claimed this: is he korrekt?
my response = it is NOT COMMON CERTAINLY but it has happened, like a kind of harmonic convergence within recorded music after -- with things after never the same as before
for example:
i. stones
ii. sabbaf
iii. slade/pistols (=essentially the same thing anyway)
iv. pulp fiction inspired resurgence of SURF sound
obv plenty of bands have been one then the other but not simultaneously, and some have even switched back again
*note use of ACTUAL here must not be employed in any kind of essentialist slipperiness, bcz that kind of behaviour is INDIE
my response = it is NOT COMMON CERTAINLY but it has happened, like a kind of harmonic convergence within recorded music after -- with things after never the same as before
for example:
i. stones
ii. sabbaf
iii. slade/pistols (=essentially the same thing anyway)
iv. pulp fiction inspired resurgence of SURF sound
obv plenty of bands have been one then the other but not simultaneously, and some have even switched back again
*note use of ACTUAL here must not be employed in any kind of essentialist slipperiness, bcz that kind of behaviour is INDIE
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Date: 2006-05-25 11:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:37 am (UTC)beatleband on the white alBUM (eg helterskelter) or were they already rock by that point?
i want to say WASIS, but can't quite pin down when it was (i'm thinking the second verse of cigs and alcohol)
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Date: 2006-05-25 11:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:39 am (UTC)neither the beatles nor oasis were EVER ROCK EVER
Date: 2006-05-25 11:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:43 am (UTC)Re: neither the beatles nor oasis were EVER ROCK EVER
Date: 2006-05-25 11:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:45 am (UTC)The Lex = ACTUAL Geir Hongro of poptimists
Date: 2006-05-25 11:47 am (UTC)THIS bit isn't especially "pop" i don't think...
Date: 2006-05-25 11:47 am (UTC)Re: The Lex = ACTUAL Geir Hongro of poptimists
Date: 2006-05-25 11:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:48 am (UTC)(well, Lex can, and is, but can a musician?)
Re: THIS bit isn't especially "pop" i don't think...
Date: 2006-05-25 11:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:49 am (UTC)what frank somewhere calls HAIRCUT ANYTHING flirts with being pop
when chuck asks BUT DOES IT ROCK?
Date: 2006-05-25 11:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-25 11:52 am (UTC)ringo was not a rock drummer FULL STOP
he is however a rockin thomas the tank engine
Re: neither the beatles nor oasis were EVER ROCK EVER
Date: 2006-05-25 11:52 am (UTC)but as I've said before I think you can only judge on a song-by-song basis.
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Date: 2006-05-25 11:54 am (UTC)As is Van Halen's 'Jump'
yes the 80s provides numerous examples of this - i mean songs which are ROKKIN but also would make any sane/impartial fan say 'this is so Pop!'
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Date: 2006-05-25 11:55 am (UTC)But yes, actual rock'n'popatthesametimestuff:
-Pixies (whether they like it or not)
-Muse
-Death From Above 1979
-System Of A Down circa. those two new(ish) albums
-At The Drive In
-Blue Oyster Cult
-The Offspring
-Siouxsie And The Banshees
-Stiff Litte Fingers
-etc. etc. etc.
My brain hurts from failing exams, otherwise would be arsed to look through my iTunes and find some more.
Re: The Lex = ACTUAL Geir Hongro of poptimists
Date: 2006-05-25 11:55 am (UTC)