ext_88055 ([identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] poptimists2011-01-24 01:27 pm
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2011 In Pop: JANUARY

Good afternoon [livejournal.com profile] poptimists! Who fancies a mega-poll of all January's new entries?

[Poll #1671901]

Warning: enthusiasm

[identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com 2011-01-25 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I am actually glad about this early poll cos now I can go:

YOU GUYS! LAST TRAIN TO PARIS! DOO WOPS AND HOOLIGANS! ADELE SINGLE! OMG! 2011 IS ALREADY 10X BETTAH THAN 2010!!

At this rate, I may have to apply re-join [livejournal.com profile] poptimists :-o
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Re: Warning: enthusiasm

[personal profile] koganbot 2011-02-02 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
2010 was fine, but then Last Train To Paris was 2010 here in Vespucci Land.

[identity profile] piratemoggy.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Owing to how great Last Train To Paris is, it's been essentially all I've listened to for the last three weeks. I had a brief burst of the recent Scissor Sisters, too. Must listen to some actual new things.

Is the Britney single properly out then or is this just dodgy cover versions?

[identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate Eliza Doolittle. This is all

[identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect I'm in a minority, but I've liked both her singles.

At album length I suspect she would get very wearing though.

And there was no excuse for the bit where she tweets.

[identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
She's hoping eventually Stephen Fry will reply to her. (Oh I am so funny! :/)

[identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
She actually goes "tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet tw-tw-tw tweet tweet" in the lyrics. That's the bridge of "Pack Up".

I presume it is a reference to Twitter, because the lyric as a whole is about not giving a shit about what people say about you on the internet. Or at least I think it is, tbh when I hear the song I am mostly just hearing "bouncy bouncy happy twee yay" in my mind. Except that I like it. In controlled doses.
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[personal profile] koganbot 2011-01-24 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, she tweeted you last July but you didn't get the message - i.e., it's a re-entry; at the time I said Eliza's feathers were too leaden to be ruffled, but I've grown to have somewhat warmer feelings towards the chick... er, towards the lass, which'd put her up on the borderline but I don't tick retweets.

[identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Or her name. NO EXCUSE AT ALLLLL!!!!

[identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Allegedly it was a childhood nickname, because Eliza is her actual name.

But yeah, no real excuse.

[identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com 2011-01-25 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Her stage name is terrible (but tbf she has actually been called that since she was wee).

I wuv her music however.

[identity profile] pippaalice.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Does Ham not = piggy based foodstuff?

[identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think "going ham" just means "going mad/crazy/rage-filled" and such?
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Random thoughts

[personal profile] koganbot 2011-01-24 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Was disappointed that Aggro didn't give us his contact information again, since I found that endearing last time. Also surprised that Kimberley didn't lift her leg, but I suppose she's now housebroken. Anyhow, the track knows it's bubblegum and goes for it, gets over the borderline, but could have used more aggro and more candy.

I have a love-hate relationship with "Hold It Against Me." This doesn't surprise you. I'll love and hate at greater length on my own lj.

Have a like/dislike relationship with "Hello"; think there's tune and talent, wish Solveig/Dragonette wouldn't get all messed-up in their mannerisms. But maybe the mannerisms are the psychological condition for their tunes and talents.

Am I the only one who was disappointed that the "Grenade" video wasn't more illustrative? (Perhaps this explains why so far I'm the only one to tick the song.) Did like the video, however; definite influence of Un Chien Andalou, what with priests and piano schlepping and the like, though I note the absence of a razor blade.



The Glee "Telephone" has an overrated Filipina bawler and a lot of clamor but's the clamor what gets it across.

Think Taio is finally pulling it together, actual good, coagulated prettiness rather than a mess of dynamite (which I also liked, but this is a keeper).

On the inadvisability of catching grenades

[identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
What does Bruno Mars mean when he says he'll catch a grenade for you?

Okay first up: catching a grenade is not an inherently productive activity. The act of catching it doesn't stop the explosion; nor is it likely to dampen the blast radius, or significantly alter the centre point of the explosion. If, having caught the grenade, you then fell on it or threw it away, that might actually save some lives. Just catching is suicidal, yes, but a meaningful sacrifice no.

The problems only get worse a bit later in the lyric - Bruno would also jump in front of a train, or take a bullet through his brain. What could either possibly achieve? Bruno Mars isn't a superhero - the train would roll right on, to say nothing of the bullet. So "for you" doesn't mean "to save you"; unless we're meant to post some absurd hypothetical where a moustache-twirling villain offers our musical hero the choice between the named death or the death of his love.

So what does "for you" mean? Does the video provide answers? In it, the love-scorned Bruno hauls a piano to serenade his love only to be spurned further and, heart broken, takes the piano to a rail track, where he is promptly run over.

The UK #1, ladies and gentlemen!

Erm.

Presumably we are meant to weep at the Shakespearean tragedy of it all. But Romeo and Juliet killed themselves because they knew (or thought they knew) their lover to be dead. Bruno's paramour is very much alive.

We are forced to conclude that Bruno hasn't topped himself for you at all. He's done it for himself, for his own pain. "Take take take it all/but you never give" sings Bruno, remonstrating with his lover for her selfishness. But suicide is selfish; perhaps the ultimate selfishness. Suicide takes one's own feelings, one's own pain and refuses to reconcile them with the rest of the world. In some circumstances, with painful, terminal illness, there may be no reconciliation possible. But Bruno just got burned by a relationship gone wrong. He could, and should, work to get over it.

Life and death hyperbole has a long tradition in love songs. Presumably (we hope) Bruno isn't aiming to incite anyone to kill themselves over a bad break-up. But here, the imagery rankles anyway - the vocal is too anguished, the lyrics too bitter, the piano too triumphalist, the overall intent too... noble.

Suicide is not inherently noble.

Re: On the inadvisability of catching grenades

[identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not sure precisely why this particular song raises my hackles in this way where any number of other "I would die for you" songs have passed me by... I think there may be a reason but I am struggling to articulate it.

Re: On the inadvisability of catching grenades

[identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com 2011-01-25 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Surely this isn't like other "I would die for you" songs precisely because he already knows she won't reciprocate. It's not a love song at all (and we know he won't carry out his threat really - he's just trying to show her up). That doesn't necessarily make the sentiment particularly attractive, I agree. But you gotta admit that taking emo sentiment and turning into a massive R&B barnstorming production number is an interesting idea.

Re: On the inadvisability of catching grenades

[identity profile] meserach.livejournal.com 2011-01-25 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It's precisely ehat tension between the R&B-love-song-presentation and the emo-goth-i-will-stab-you-creeper lyric which disturbs me so much. It's as if I'm watching a romantic comedy in which the hilarious attempts by the male lead to woo the female lead include him getting into a thigh-slappingly-hilarious mix-up where he goes to paint his name in his own blood on her door but GETS THE WRONG DOOR HAHAHA.
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Re: Random thoughts

[personal profile] koganbot 2011-01-25 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
Ack! No wonder she didn't lift her leg.

One knows so many Kimberleys. Maybe they're actually sisters, raised on different continents. They arrange their name in the Korean way, with the surname first and the given name second. Something like a quarter of the Koreans are named Kim anyway. Maybe this is the long form.
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January

[personal profile] koganbot 2011-01-24 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
January new to me and relatively new to the world:
Britney Spears "Hold It Against Me"
Secret "No. 1 (Inst.)"
Jeremih "Holding On"
LPG "찔레꽃" (Google translate calls this "Jjilrekkot," which doesn't get me much farther)
Dal★shabet "매력덩어리" (which is "Hottie" according to Google translate)
Teen Top "Supa Luv"

January new to me but not very new to the world:
Busy Signal "How Yuh Bad So"
Missy Elliott ft. Eminem "Busa Rhyme"
Shinehead "Billie Jean"
4minute "I My Me Mine"
Crookers ft. Róisín Murphy "Royal T"
Gatekeeper "Forgotten"
Ciara "What He Wants For Dinner"
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And this is what was killing me in December

[personal profile] koganbot 2011-01-24 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
December was very crowded, but this is what got me most excited:

December new to me and relatively new to the world:
Jeremih ft. 50 Cent "Down On Me"
GD&TOP "High High"
Girl's Day "Nothing Lasts Forever"
Miss A "Breathe"
Pitbull ft. T-Pain "Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor)"
Diddy - Dirty Money ft. Skylar Grey "Coming Home"
Reba McEntire "If I Were A Boy"
GD&TOP "Knock Out"
Diddy - Dirty Money ft. Biggie Smalls & Rick Ross "Angels"

December new to me but not very new to the world:
Roach Gigz "Pop Off"
Girl Unit "Wut"
The-Dream "Abyss"
The-Dream "Panties To The Sea"
IU "MIA" aka "Missing Child"
Daddy Yankee "La Señal"

And admit it, aren't these guys really cute?


(note that they shout out to the track's producer at 2:40, guy who lives in Philadelphia)



Whereas these gals are tough:



And see them here, too, if you're not convinced:



Or the regular old real video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTnwjlDhAY4

Re: And this is what was killing me in December

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The-Dream needs to record a song called "Panties to the Sea" RIGHT NOW.
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Re: And this is what was killing me in December

[personal profile] koganbot 2011-01-25 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Ack! I put "Panties To The Side" on a mix CD and called the CD "Panties To The Sea" and now forget that that's not the title of the song.

[identity profile] mcarratala.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd heard none of these before today because my TV is bust. On first hearing, the Britney is disappointing, the Adele – which I'd heard good things about – is every bit as blaring as everything else sees ever done and I'm now just pretending Glee doesn't exist. But the Avril song sounds like a fifteen year old Japanese girl attempting the Belly back catalogue, and that's a good thing (even if surely Avril herself must be too old for her shtick by now – she's the same age Jagger was 1969, for instance).
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Best not-strictly-new things in January

[personal profile] credoimprobus 2011-01-25 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, if I'd heard this in December, it would have made my top 5:



AMAZING. (audio-only rather than the clean-version video, because really, the swears are essential.)

I am also now OFFICIALLY CONVINCED BY KE$HA -- I have Many Words on Cannibal-the-song that I should really commit to bytes (because I come at my connection to it from an angle I don't think I've seen anywhere else, and it's one I think deserves representation), and We R Who We R is 1 X PROPER ANTHEM.