ext_281244 ([identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] poptimists2006-01-17 11:28 am

Bits of Poptimist Business

How orga is my fun? How? How? HERE'S HOW - a new weekly Poptimists schedule so we can, "keep it regular".

Monday: Now poll (& Poptimists charts)
Tuesday: BOSH OF THE WEEK
Wednesday: Pop World Cup!
Thursday: Now poll
Friday: Winner Stays On.

Except I won't be posting this week's bosh until I get home.

I received my first Pop World Cup submission last night - IT IS EXCELLENT! I will not prejudice results by saying whose it was though. I have not yet decided which ridiculously complex fair and user-friendly voting system to use.

Bonus poll:
[Poll #653995]

Question of thee day: are there any really good songs about how other songs or music aren't good? "I Don't Know Where It Comes From" by Ride - unspeakable. "All The Records On The Radio Are Sh1te" by Ballboy - unpalatable. "Funk Pop A Roll" by XTC - erm chalk it down to guilty pleasures. WHEREAS songs about how other songs and music are GREAT are often good! i.e. "Music" by John Miles. Maybe.

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
'16' by the buzzcocks: "and i hate modern music! disco boogie and pop! they go on, and on and on, and on and on, how i wish they would STOP!"

[identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
It is not exactly bad, but it is not one of their best efforts either.

[identity profile] umlauts.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It's actually aces, Tom. I can YSI if you like.

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[identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
psb 'how i learned to hate rock'n'roll'! seminal popist tract.

i fear that 'wild horses' will go the 'wake me up' route - sounds fantastic in album context, completely irrelevant as single.

Golden Oldies, Rolling Stones, We Don't Want Them Back!!!

[identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'D RATHER JACK, THAN FLEETWOOD MAC

best diss song ever.

[identity profile] thenipper.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"I don't like country & western.
I don't like rock music.
I don't like, I don't like rockabilly.
- rock'n'roll in particular -
I don't like much, really, do I?
but what I do like, I love passionately"

Also, obvious but true: 'Panic'.

[identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
i know how much Helen Love winds you all up, so i'll chip in with "DOes Your Heart Go Boom". Not only bigging up ATR but dissing kulashaker and bush. rockism + fish barrel shooting ( + glass-house owners throwing stones IF YOU LIKE). also i dance very heartily to this and enjoyed them doing it live

[identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
*explodes with rage at mere thought of Helen Love*

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[identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
ride lyrics (and yes chord tabs)

http://www.chordie.com/chord.pere/getsome.org/guitar/olga/main/r/ride/i_dont_know.crd

[identity profile] carsmilesteve.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
of course, if they turned on their radio at night, they were probably listening to STEVE LURPACK on the evening session, thus no doubt a load of sh!te...

but yes, even i can't defend ride after going blank again...

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[identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The work database has come up with:

"Bad Music For Bad People" by The Cramps (ok that's an album title)
"I Hate Dead Pop Stars" by The Hammers
"I Hate Alternative Rock" by some Japanese person

Also "Rubbish" by Carter USM mentions "rubbish on the radio" in the lyrics.

I JUDGE...

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[identity profile] braisedbywolves.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Arguably, "Video killed the radio star".

[identity profile] zenith.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
'Rock'n'Roll' by Mos Def. Plus umpteen boring songs* about how "hip-pop" or modern rap is rubbish, by conscious conscious conscious rappers.

*And a few good ones.

[identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually the entirety of hip hop, 'Beat Biters' by Missy Elliott springs to mind and of course innumerable "everyone else is shit but I am great" songs.

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
there are an infinity of f.zappa songs abt how everything ever is awful (zappa = the jazzrock carter w/o the puns)

[identity profile] giddyoldgoat.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
'radio radio' by elvis costello. i'm not sure if it's 'good' or not.

i have always had a soft spot for 'one down three to go' by the meatmen released just after lennon's death (and pre-george-popping, obv)

lots of denim songs, eg middle of the road

[identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
and are we ignoring rap diss reckids here? JayZ's entire putdown of Nas is based on "yeah you're first album was ace, but it's all shit after that, la". or something like that

[identity profile] umlauts.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"Models" is, really, the last song I would pick as a single. (OK, no, "No Regrets" and "It's Magic" which has already been a B-side). It's so tinny, it wouldn't survive on the radio. Gotta be Wild Horses.

The real wasted single is "See The Day", STOP with the cover ballads! "Watch Me Go" should have been the lead single.

[identity profile] pot80.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't know what UK radio is like, but I think "Models" is one of two songs on the record that could go over well in the US. (The other is "Waiting," which is also a far better candidate for a single than "Wild Horses," which is very good but screams 'album cut' to me.)

[identity profile] juror8.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Half Man Half Biscuit- Four Skinny Indie Kids. Shit Arm, Bad Tattoo (the first ever song about Pete Doherty"). Vatican Broadside ("the singer out of Slipknot went to Rome to see the Pope..."). Arguably "The Ballad of Climie Fisher". About 80% of the rest of their catalogue.

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
this may not be fair but i have always taken HMHB's "disses" to be a kind of product placement of THEMSELVES in and around a title-mention of [insert other artist or item here], the conent being "anti" but carefully delivered so that fans of item treat it as "just a bit of fun" and think fondly of HMBM as a result

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[identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
From the album of the millenium so far, we have Never Been To Memphis by Daphne & Celeste, explaining how terrible country and western is. In something like a pair of Brooklyn schoolgirls' approximation of country and western styles, complete with comedy Deep South accent-attempts. It is among the greatest things ever recorded.

[identity profile] jel-bugle.livejournal.com 2006-01-17 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I voted for Wild Horses but I think I like the Flying Burrito Brothers version better.

(Anonymous) 2006-01-17 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't follow the reasoning behind disallowing Jay-Z's "Takeover," but anyway, there's Schoolly D's "I Don't Like Rock and Roll" and Schoolly D's "No More Rock and Roll."

(Anonymous) 2006-01-17 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Previous post was me.

Frank Kogan

[identity profile] poptasticuk.livejournal.com 2006-01-20 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I Hate Oasis And I Hate The Beatles by Teen Anthems is great!