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meh is a word now. also i would like "meh" as an option on the second one too pls.

alsoalso will you be in ox for an pint after work on saturday? assuming yr working on saturday that is. also assuming you'd like a pint...

I did actually mean to put more categories in the second but my mum said I had to stop faffing about on the internets and take the dog for a walk. Clearly she fails to understand the srs bsns of democracy.

I will be both at work and wishing to go for a pint! I finish at 7 and have just been paid an almost ridiculous amount of money so will have phone credit and EVERYTHING.

aaaah, that might be a slight problem, was thinking of heading back to london about 7.30ish, but we could meet up for a quick one, if you'll pardon the expression...

also i don't have yr number.

Oh, b4lls, I changed from the early shift, too, like a FULE. Well, no, it's because I can't get in for the early shift but still. Erm. Yes, we shall have to meet up for a quick one or summat, I'll be sure to depart work as fast as possible. Will you be with

cis?

that is the plang yes, she is going to see CLASSICAL MUSIC later, but i'm sure a pub can be communicated to you :)

Good lord, not the kind of thing we at

poptimists would like to endorse, obviously. ;) Get her to send me a text when you're in a stable rendezvous environment and I shall dash there as soon as I'm let out.

I did actually mean to put more categories in the second but my mum said I had to stop faffing about on the internets and take the dog for a walk. Clearly she fails to understand the srs bsns of democracy.

It's just like 'Galaxy Quest'! Mums. Tcchhh.

Mm, White Town - I was listening to that yesterday. Lovely nostalgia.

I have seen the new movie.

I have been to the live stage show.

HSM = AWESOME

Me too on both counts! Do you have children or are you just super-cool?

You're just indie if you hate it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2008/nov/14/indie-high-school-musical

It's a fact I live with every day. D:

He just hates Moz. I'm wondering if he's Henry Rollins in disguise.

I think I love the fact that it exists and is such a huge phenomenon despite meeting absolutely no adult measures of credibility whatsoever. But this does not extend to me actually wanting to experience it. Except Zac Efron's body which is just...completely amazing and I would like to experience that very much.

(The HSM stars all have a handful of AWESOME songs too, though no more than a handful.) (Well, Tisdale and Hudgens do.)

This is my problem with it, possibly. I quite like the idea of it (ok no this is a lie but that's mostly due to me being a massive goth and it being so relentlessly peppy) or at least don't hate it for invalid reasons, I just really don't like the few songs I've heard from it. I have no problem with it, per se, I just hate it on a selfish level.

Not liking the songs doesn't even bother me that much - there's a lot of stuff I'm into that I'm not in the target demographic for, but with HSM I'm really really not in the target demographic (unless I want to conform to a particularly horrible gay stereotype) and, y'know, it seems to be what the kidz want. I'm pretty sure the weird chastity/purity ring thing isn't actually going to affect any of them once the hormones kick in (also: it's not actually explicitly running the SEX = SHAME angle, is it? It's more SEX DOESN'T EXIST, which is...less unhealthy). The pep...yes, I hate that. That is why I also hate adult musicals.

Also while I dislike, like, 85% of the product, the four Tisdale bangers on her album and the Baby V freestyle track are really really amazingly great, so the whole HSM vehicle does come up trumps on occasion.

--Only great HSM song per se: Vanessa Hudgens, Zac Efron, Drew Seeley "Breaking Free"
--Great Tisdale songs: The three singles you mentioned ("He Said, She Said," "Be Good To Me," "Not Like That")
--Really good Hudgens songs: "Say OK," "Don't Just Go Back, Arrive" (Sears Ad)
--Great Hudgens songs: "Don't Talk," "Identified," "Amazed" f. Lil Mama, "First Bad Habit."

That's a ridiculous number of good and great material from the Hudge (7 songs), given that her voice fundamentally doesn't have a whole lot to give.

Liking HSM wouldn't be conforming to a "horrible gay stereotype" - I know which stereotype you're referring to (an unpleasant one as it makes gay men seem stupid and intelligent ones think they have to act stupid), but I also know loads of intelligent and interesting 20-something gay men who love HSM just as they love pop music and trashy TV and musicals and so on. Just because they like something which fits into a negative stereotype about them doesn't mean they didn't choose freely to like it.

Same here - I am FAR more intrigued by the HSM Wii cheerleading game than the films/music/people, but I approve of all of that existing.

I became a fan of Ashley Tisdale on Facebook.

Feeling there should be an 'I'm all grown up now blah :-(' option here.

Well, the way I see it, I could have legitimately been taking my kids to HSM, and they just didn't want to sit near their uncool parents.

I think a more interesting discussion would be a comparison and ranking of the films.

(2 is obviously the worst)