ext_88055 ([identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] poptimists2006-09-19 12:44 pm
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I Love #1's - 1997

What ho, pop-pickers! Last week's jaunt back to 1954 was something of a non-starter, with only 12 voters having heard anything on the list! Secret Love, Such A Night and This Ole House all tied with a piffling 8 votes each, but our Doris was the overall victor in the tie-break box. This week we have something for everyone. The last death throes of Brit-rock, teenpop perfection, lots of songs about dead people and...Tubby Toast? It's 1997!

[Poll #824745]

Re: Songs I hated at the time that I like now

[identity profile] celentari.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
Uff still hate that one, HOWEVER, songs I liked at the time that I hate now: Druqks Don't Work and Perfect Day. Well, I still like the original, but that whole BBC ident thing is just ming.

Re: Songs I hated at the time that I like now

[identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. I think it is beautiful and heart-rending and moving, now.

Also 'I'll Be Missing You'! How could I ever have hated it?

[identity profile] cis.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
1997 I LOVE YOU

actually, authentically, a year so full of love it is amazing it didn't burst and splatter itself all over the rest of the nineties.

no guitars, no strobes, no leather, no HUMPS (check it out!)

[identity profile] cis.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I realised, quite recently, that my version of 1996-7 had been totally stalinised by looking back and thinking "but i was totally indie surely", cos I really liked the Spice Girls especially! I remember when they were interviewed in the NME (was it by stephen dalton? i bet it was), it were awesome.

I however hated 'don't speak' at the time and was really annoyed that No Doubt got big off the back of it and not off "Just A Girl", which I thought wayyyyy better.

oh, I've had it up to HUMPS

[identity profile] cis.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
actual ANTHEM for girls who loved the guitars! It's one of the first records I can remember having a proper in-depth conversation about, with my friend who was all about the SoCalPunk. Plus she appeared to have the longest midriff in the WORLD in the video.

[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this is one of the years I'm least looking forward to doing on P'lar. I don't love the shiny pop nearly as much as the 96 or 98 equivs, and I hate the dreary britrock even more!

[identity profile] cis.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
My reaction to this year is barely even critical, I think? It's mostly just ("just") a really important year for me, personally, in terms of my relationship to music, a point at which I was experiencing everything. All this stuff I'd nowadays shrug off as schlock-sentimental or substandard or cynical or... whatever, that at the time was fresh and moving and more meaningful than anything else.

I secretly don't think of the dreary britrock as separate from pop, even!

[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I mean it wasn't really actually separate from pop.

Actually that's an interesting thought - the original move from Swinging London pop to late 60s rock was marked by a format shift to albums (and a radio format shift too!) which left the singles chart actually somewhat adrift (the period currently being covered on Popular) - maybe one of the things that made britrock SO irksome was its total refusal/inability to give up the pop infrastructure of radio/video airplay, appearances on TV shows etc.

[identity profile] cis.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And there was that weird thing where they still acted like they were Taking On The Man by appearing on TOTP and having number one records - they were still locked in the groove of the indie mindset, even the boorish beerish stuff. I think that's lasted, you know? Current irksome britrock stuff - yer Coldplays and whatevers - still does what's left of the singles-based promo trail, and still acts like it's surprising. ("britrock is teh art of pretend indie ethic" etc etc.)

Mind you I don't think I consider it irksome, anymore! I have come a complete 180 on this.

[identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
this is why I refer to Oasis et al as indie!

[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Tell me more of yr love of SNOW PATROL!

[identity profile] cis.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I have not got that far yet but I am working on it! Amazingly sentimental stuff with string sections tacked on for ADDED EXTRA GRAVITAS is kind of amazing, though, how it pounds and chimes and soundtracks preview commercials for One Tree Hill with people sighing mopily!

[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I would agree but I wish they'd drop the singing style, LET JEFF BUCKLEY REST.

[identity profile] cis.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm, that weedy overhigh straining that remembers how "jeff buckley never had any vocal training" but forgets the "however he was a singing genius" bit! I like to think of it as the beating, yearning, frailly fluttering heart of the stuff. (oddly enough one of the things that 180'd me on it was r'n'b use of the general eggy-sentimental sonics, but twinned with female voices that have such things as depth, ability to hold a tune, control of emotion, etc.)

[identity profile] lockedintheatti.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
This was a HUGE year for sales though - obviously Elton's as the biggest ever, but also Aqua, Teletubbies, Perfect Day & Puffie all sold over a million copies. If I recall correctly this was one of the biggest years for single sales ever, rivalled only by a couple at the end of the 70s.

[identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG YES!

there are a few dreadful dreadfulnesses present but they are totally overshadowed by:

- sentimental and emotional r&b! (Puff Daddy and R Kelly)
- Olive getting most improbable No 1 ever on fourth re-release!
- glorious pop back-to-back of 'I Wanna Be The Only One' and 'Mmmbop'!
- TORI GETTING A NUMBER ONE!!!!

[identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't tick Tori, but if the Armand Van Helden remix counts, I would have. Can we have a clarification on this important point, please?

[identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I have amended my vote accordingly.

[identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that it is the remix and only the remix we're supposed to be evaluating here.

Was there supposed to be another option to "Bless" re G Barlow? That 100% statistic is a bit meaningless without one.

[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Not only did I tick the GazBaz box I ticked his SONG! Then it struck me that maybe this was the soppy ballad and "Forever Love" was the good disco one.

[identity profile] cis.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)
you can not tick it? Also there is no reaction but 'bless' possible. XD

[identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Original and remix are BOTH great! Sadly the original with its chorus of "Starfucker just like my daddy/Selling his baby just like my daddy" over a thrash metal riff played on a harpsichord would perhaps not quite have been No 1 material.

Off topic

[identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Is anyone else (who gets FT as a syndicated feed on LJ) getting an overdose of Food Science Day on their Friends page this morning? I've had to set up a Friends filter to stop the madness!

Re: Off topic

[identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, sorry about that FT readers. It's been sorted out now so there will be no more extra bonus repeat posts.

Re: Off topic

[identity profile] jauntyalan.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
yes sorry for the pirate-inspired madness there. filter it out of yr friends until the LJ feed catches up

Load the cannons!

[identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Dare I ask what all the piracy on FT is about?

[identity profile] jeff-worrell.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Ne'er mind. I've sussed it me hearties.

my 'on the buses' story

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/ 2006-09-19 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I heard a five-year old singing the teletubbies song over and over again a couple of days ago.

THE END

No way Tori Amos should have more votes than Aqua!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[identity profile] nicolars.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
INJUSTICE

Re: No way Tori Amos should have more votes than Aqua!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com 2006-09-19 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Bite your tongue! Tori Amos is way better.