BBC Talking Point vs Eurovision

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Lordi, Lordi, Lordi. What an act. A proper band playng proper instruments.

And kudos the the Germans. Country and Western.

The rest were just sining to backing tracks and classical session musicians.

The first time I have 'watched' the show for about 15 years all thanks to Lordi.

Comments

[zenith.livejournal.com]

Point = missed.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I think it takes real dedication to watch Lordi and for yr main impression to be "A proper band playing proper instruments".

Finland, Germany and Latvia (who are excluded from his crtiticism by dint of fact) were my 3 favourites too though.

[zenith.livejournal.com]

Finland, Lithuania and - had they qualified - Iceland for me.

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

Arrrgh, noooo. No true poptimist should select those three.

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

I was going to post AN LONG RANT this morning decrying the sudden influx of irony and subversion into Eurovision. I mean, it's rather like kicking a labrador puppy isn't it? LT United in particular can go suck a dick.

I'm not sure I approve of Silvia Night either. It seems to me she's just taking advantage of the language barrier to wind up the Greek media. And for what end? Take it somewhere that actually deserves it - like that orgy of self-importance the Grammys for example. Not a contest that is all about celebrating our (Europe's) common love of pop.

I exempt Lordi from this, because "Hard Rock Hallelujah" is a fantastic pop song, regardless of the fact that it was original put forward as a form of protest. Deserved winner.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

I think it's hard to separate the impulses of "Let's do something different (to take the piss)" and "Let's do something different (and see if we can stand out a bit)" - especially as often these impulses mingle a bit. The former may be less healthy or a bit distasteful but it only works if you can produce a forceful and memorable performance surely - i.e. Lithuania was pop despite not necessarily wanting to be.

If the price of a Eurovision which includes pop-metal, pop-country, pop-hip-hop, weird a capella tracks as well as a hefty helping of trad europop, balladry, ethnobeat etc. is that we get the occasional sneerer sneaking in, that's not too bad a price to pay.

(I thought this year the trad europop in particular was very weak - some good tunes but rotten vocalists by and large)

[zenith.livejournal.com]

No true poptimist believes in the concept of "true poptimists".

[jeff-worrell.livejournal.com]

haha I shall try and parse that sentence for the rest of today

I will confess to being whay mike t-diva calls a 'Eurovision purist'. Here's the last of his recent Slate pieces on the contest. (http://www.slate.com/id/2141944/entry/2142205/) Note the last bit, where he reports on the possibility of the contest "going global". Eek.

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

i am much more aggravated by the incursion of WOGANISM into public discourse viz intelligent ppl at my house stating that "of course the baltic nations all vote for each other"

he is worse than davina and dj daz put together

decrying knowingness = "i wish i was 1xpunk with flowers in my hair"

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

> classical session musicians

O NOES! ppl that can actually PLAY their instruments shocker!

I bet Mr Lordi has grade 1 piano.

[carsmilesteve.livejournal.com]

MY 8 YEAR OLD GRANDCHILD COULD HAVE DONE BETTER!

oh sorry, wrong talking point...

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I don't think I approve of Lordi.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

Well you don't like "The Final Countdown" etc. so I'm not surprised.

I was shocked by the press reports saying "Oh normally it is pop that wins the Eurovision but not this year" - how dense do you have to be to not recognise Lordi as pop?

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

The only proper metal song I like is 'Poison' by Alice Cooper.

lordi are not pop they have guitars

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Lordi have a girl on keyboards = indie!!!!

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

LORDI'S SONG *IS* POISON by Alice Cooper!

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

oh I haven't heard it! I went out to dance to Ellen Allien instead of watching Eurovision. I just disapprove of metal generally. And the world only needs one 'Poison'.

[chezghost.livejournal.com]

have you heard the bosh version of 'Poison'?

[alexmacpherson.livejournal.com]

I have indeed. Groove Coverage, no? Much better than the original!

[zenith.livejournal.com]

Think of all the true metal purists they probably annoy.

[freakytigger.livejournal.com]

There seems to be a real split judging by the google blogsearch I made on Sunday, between "It's metal! Winning eurovision! OMG!" and "NO WAIT ITS THE WRONG KIND AARGH" "But dudes a metal song won Eurovision!".

Similarly there seems to be a "...but at what cost!" backlash of sorts in Finland which has been entering my-love-the-reindeer ballads for 1000 years to no effect.

[jel-bugle.livejournal.com]

I'm glad Lordi won. It was a Kiss cover really. The real metal community will appreciate the subversion involved. Plus, they have made a load of albums already.

I voted for Finland, Sweden, Lithuania, and Germany (for my sister, as she was having problems getting through)

[dubdobdee.livejournal.com]

jel your sister sang the german entry?! d00d!

[jel-bugle.livejournal.com]

yeah! ;)

[anthonyeaston.livejournal.com]

wait, wait, german country and western ?!!?
please someone tell me this vision was true

[jel-bugle.livejournal.com]

Enjoy:

http://www.texaslightning.net/

[jel-bugle.livejournal.com]

Wow! They have an MP3 of a cover of "Like a Virgin!" in the Download section!! Wow!!

[jel-bugle.livejournal.com]

ha, but some dude advertises halfway through and then it fades out! Fiddlesticks!

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

MY GOD they are amazing! Dancing Queen is FAB!

[jel-bugle.livejournal.com]

I just went and bought their live album!

[jauntyalan.livejournal.com]

:-)

[katstevens.livejournal.com]

Lordi defend accusations of Satanism (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5004170.stm)

"They have produced an album called The Devil Is A Loser and maybe that tells a little bit about this..."